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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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I have had my truck less than a year and already been hung up 2-3 times in the mud. These spots I could have easily went in with my F150 and had no problems.

My question is will the F250 do ok in the mud / off-road? I don't want to go on hunting trip and get hung up driving down a dirt road. Do I need to be concerned about getting stuck in places that would seem fairly easy for F150 to go? My F250 is 6.2l factory tires, etc...
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 09:03 PM
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Get different tires
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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X2 on getting better tires.
Is your truck 4wd?
Do you have the e-locking rear end?
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by salomon
X2 on getting better tires.
Is your truck 4wd?
Do you have the e-locking rear end?
Yes it is 4wd not sure about elock.

Tires are bigger than what I had on f150
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 09:39 PM
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It's not the tire size that is the problem.
The factory tires don't provide traction for off road conditions.
You need a good all-terrain or mud terrain tire.
On my 2016, I pull the 4x4 switch straight out to activate locker.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by salomon
It's not the tire size that is the problem.
The factory tires don't provide traction for off road conditions.
You need a good all-terrain or mud terrain tire.
On my 2016, I pull the 4x4 switch straight out to activate locker.
I just turn **** to 4wd not sure if it pulls out
 
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 05:15 AM
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You need a designated mud tire.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 06:38 AM
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Also, when you have a suitable tire, air it down a bit off road so it squats out some to get a better ground patch. My Jeep had 35psi tires and I would drop them to 10, my F-350 diesel from before had 65psi and I would drop them to 25-30. Do not drive it on the road at normal speed that way tho, it will trash the tires.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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Alot of the newer rigs will have the 4x4 with the E-locker, the symbol in the center of this picture is denoting the E-locker, sometimes its not dead center but instead its on the left side of the ****, take a look and see if you have it. if you do that will help quite a bit as some of the F150 pickups had limited slip rear ends, so it was a locker that would kick in automatically when one side started slipping more than the other.

As everyone said, a good quality tire will help you out the most, If you have stock street tires on your pickup, go get some AT (all terrain) or MT (mud terrain) tires on that pickup.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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All else being the same between the F150 and F250, you'll need a WIDER M/T tire, assuming (I know... ***-u-me) the the kind of mud you're in doesn't have a hard bottom a couple inches down, you need more flotation to keep the significantly fatter SD up. If you have skinny tires and cut down through the mud and stick the axle, you're gonna have a bad time.

Nitto Trail Grapplers come in stock and +1 size that will fit stock wheels, with E-ratings and 126-129 load indexes. I ran 295/70R18 tires on stock 18x8 wheels, no crowning issues, and they were rated to 4080# each so towing and handling didn't suffer.


 
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Originally Posted by Tarster
Alot of the newer rigs will have the 4x4 with the E-locker, the symbol in the center of this picture is denoting the E-locker, sometimes its not dead center but instead its on the left side of the ****, take a look and see if you have it. if you do that will help quite a bit as some of the F150 pickups had limited slip rear ends, so it was a locker that would kick in automatically when one side started slipping more than the other.

As everyone said, a good quality tire will help you out the most, If you have stock street tires on your pickup, go get some AT (all terrain) or MT (mud terrain) tires on that pickup.
Limited slip is not a locker in any way....
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
Limited slip is not a locker in any way....
In the traditional sort of hardcore 4x4 you would be correct, but when he is talking about getting stuck in some mud while going hunting.. then you just talking semantics.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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No, LSD is not a locker in the true sense of a full locking setup, but it can achieve the same effect in situations such as this. If you are spinning one side, apply a little brake pressure and you can force a "lock up" to get power on both wheels. This is very common in rock crawling with LSD equipped vehicles.
 
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[QUOTE=texastech_diesel;16667051]All else being the same between the F150 and F250, you'll need a WIDER M/T tire, assuming (I know... ***-u-me) the the kind of mud you're in doesn't have a hard bottom a couple inches down, you need more flotation to keep the significantly fatter SD up. If you have skinny tires and cut down through the mud and stick the axle, you're gonna have a bad time.
Nitto Trail Grapplers come in stock and +1 size that will fit stock wheels, with E-ratings and 126-129 load indexes. I ran 295/70R18 tires on stock 18x8 wheels, no crowning issues, and they were rated to 4080# each so towing and handling didn't suffer.


Would you run them again? I'm on the fence between these and the Cooper STT Pro in the 295/60/20 as I need an open tread pattern. Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by RainDesert
Would you run them again?
I would. Nothing else in the Nitto line up really appeals to me except the Dura Grappler for pure highway use. The Ridge Grappler looks interesting, but having had the Trails I would happily go back to that more classic M/T pattern versus the new design. The Trail Grappler looks a lot like the old BFG KMs, big blocks, not a ton of siping, lots of void space. Worked well in real snow, but definitely NOT an ice tire though.

I've never run a Cooper M/T tire so I don't have an opinion on those. Looks kind of like a BFG KM2 at first glance though. BFG changed the tread pattern for a reason I suppose.
 
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