2017 DPF Issues?
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Years ago, I personally knew a guy who on the first day of ownership of his new car, opened the hood on his new car and saw the fill cap that read "Oil Fill". He took it off, looked inside and saw no oil. He continued to pour oil in until it was at the top of valve cover. Needless to say, very few seals were left inside that engine after a short drive. Had to pay out of pocket for repairs as dealer laughed when he asked for warranty coverage. (Rightfully so, IMO).
I know...everybody "knows a guy", but this is a 100% true story.
Bottom line: "You'd have to be a complete idiot to pump diesel in the DEF fill." Yes, they are out there and they do exist. Not saying this is what happened in this case, but I do not rule out anything when human decision making is in the formula! ;-)
I know...everybody "knows a guy", but this is a 100% true story.
Bottom line: "You'd have to be a complete idiot to pump diesel in the DEF fill." Yes, they are out there and they do exist. Not saying this is what happened in this case, but I do not rule out anything when human decision making is in the formula! ;-)
Still not buying it.
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A user in the 6.7 section reported this happening a little over a year ago.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-exhaust.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...m-exhaust.html
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That's why I encourage guys to get into the 6.7 section Tyler. The 2017 section is fun for all the new bling but there is just so much that has gone on in the 6.7 section over the years. Lots of info and knowledge. 
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Actually, I'm really curious to know the gritty details about the 6.7L in the 2017 models. What is really different? On the surface I see 2 more quarts of oil and quite a bit more coolant in the new engines. What about make / model / specs of new turbo? Changes to the fuel pump? Injectors? GM has moved away from Bosch fuel system on their 2017 Dmax but Ford is staying. Very curious.
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Guilty as charged. I followed the 6.7 section for awhile, but the 2017 section is an addiction right now.
Actually, I'm really curious to know the gritty details about the 6.7L in the 2017 models. What is really different? On the surface I see 2 more quarts of oil and quite a bit more coolant in the new engines. What about make / model / specs of new turbo? Changes to the fuel pump? Injectors? GM has moved away from Bosch fuel system on their 2017 Dmax but Ford is staying. Very curious.
Actually, I'm really curious to know the gritty details about the 6.7L in the 2017 models. What is really different? On the surface I see 2 more quarts of oil and quite a bit more coolant in the new engines. What about make / model / specs of new turbo? Changes to the fuel pump? Injectors? GM has moved away from Bosch fuel system on their 2017 Dmax but Ford is staying. Very curious.
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Wonder if the coolant capacity increase is wrong as well? The degas bottles on the primary and secondary systems look identical. Maybe the radiators are different, don't really look any different, but where would you put the extra coolant?
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Dan, (invstr55), contacted Ford about it when he got his first change done and it was only listed as 13 qts. on his receipt. Ford confirmed that the manual was wrong and that 13 was correct. I can't remember if he asked about the coolant capacity.
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Thanks. I tried to rep you for the info, but it won't let me until I spread the love...
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Jalopnik did a little journalism (so it does still exist) on this subject:
Jalopnik on truck tail fire
Looks like they talked both the the owner and Ford. They added an update quote from Ford since I read it last night:
But yeah, who runs their truck when it's on fire?
Jalopnik on truck tail fire
Looks like they talked both the the owner and Ford. They added an update quote from Ford since I read it last night:
We have completed our initial investigation into the Super Duty in Canada and have determined it was caused by an incorrect repair after the truck was produced. We are not aware of any other incidents and we are taking action to prevent this from happening in the future. In this unique case, the customer returned the affected truck and received a refund.
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I'm having a hard time with the diesel in the DEF theory. IF this is a vulnerability for these trucks, it's a big one. I can image every single high school kid doing it to their friend's dad's truck just to see what happens. I'm going with some failure of the diesel injection logic that created a runaway. Turn off the truck, fix the sensor and reflash the truck and problem solved.
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Jalopnik did a little journalism (so it does still exist) on this subject:
Jalopnik on truck tail fire
Looks like they talked both the the owner and Ford. They added an update quote from Ford since I read it last night:
But yeah, who runs their truck when it's on fire?
Jalopnik on truck tail fire
Looks like they talked both the the owner and Ford. They added an update quote from Ford since I read it last night:
But yeah, who runs their truck when it's on fire?
"Workin' on mysteries without any clues" Bob Seeger said that
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From: NH
She only had owned the truck for 10 hours. It would have been on dealer / factory fill DEF.
In her defense, she also tried to get a replacement Ford but none were quickly available and she needed a truck, so a RAM it was.
In her defense, she also tried to get a replacement Ford but none were quickly available and she needed a truck, so a RAM it was.