oil dip stick mis-hap
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oil dip stick mis-hap
I have a 83 f150 4x4. I have been fumbling through a motor replacement. The replacement is almost ready to drop in. I just have to finish a few things, and in the process realized an issue with the oil dip stick. It is a 69 302 block. No hole for an oil dipstick in the block, although the timing cover has the provision for a dipstick. What kind of options do I have?
From what I understand I need a rear sump pickup, but the dipstick has to follow being in the rear.
I have read of brazing in a peice of 3/8 brakeline fitting into the oil pan, but am concerned with details. Where does it have to go? What do I need to be on the look out for as far as location? I cannot find any of this info on the net.
Buying an aftermarket oil pan is out of the question right now, and I wanted to get this thing installed before the first snow fall of the season.
What options do I have with respect to a few basic garage tools?
From what I understand I need a rear sump pickup, but the dipstick has to follow being in the rear.
I have read of brazing in a peice of 3/8 brakeline fitting into the oil pan, but am concerned with details. Where does it have to go? What do I need to be on the look out for as far as location? I cannot find any of this info on the net.
Buying an aftermarket oil pan is out of the question right now, and I wanted to get this thing installed before the first snow fall of the season.
What options do I have with respect to a few basic garage tools?
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The boss is kinda there, but not spotfaced and square to where you would have to drill (with a very long bit) on older engines.
being 4x4, you're probably pulling the engine to swap the pan later if you don't install aftermarket now.
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I know the early Bronco's with 302's had the rear sump pan with the dipstick made in the side of the pan. I lucked out when I put a car 351w in my 1980 f150, I found a rear sump pan in the junkyard on a later 351w that also had the disptick in the pan. I am not sure if any of the 80-up 302 pans had the dipstick in the side, but it's worth checking. You also need the oil pump extension, and the main bearing cap stud to support the extension.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/152182520740?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Caveat: No guarantee that is the exact oil pan you would need. It's just one example of the many hits I got searching for "ford truck 302 oil pan".
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This happened to another member not long ago. (How I know about it)
Iirc, he put a bolt as a sight glass in the pan.
found the level by filling it with a gallon and a half of water on the bench.
Iirc, he put a bolt as a sight glass in the pan.
found the level by filling it with a gallon and a half of water on the bench.
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Here's the extended pickup you will need too.
Ford Mercury Lincoln Oil Pump Pick Up Screen Cover Tube 302 5 0 | eBay
Ford Mercury Lincoln Oil Pump Pick Up Screen Cover Tube 302 5 0 | eBay
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That is correct, I've got the pickup and stud from the old engine, no worries there.
I love the sight glass idea, hahaha. That's why I ask around before I decide all is lost. Someone always has a unique "out of the box" type idea somewhere. and IMHO those are the best.
So a gallon and a half of liquid is what we're looking for huh? If I do braze a bung in there that seems like a good calibration method for the dipstick.
Just buying a new pan would be great, finances aside, if I bought a new oil pan, it would be the best looking part of the engine. We cannot have that. I'd like to try my hand at building a stroker some time next year if the stars align properly. That machine will be getting all of the freshly harvested cabbage.
this one just needs to get me through the winter.
I love the sight glass idea, hahaha. That's why I ask around before I decide all is lost. Someone always has a unique "out of the box" type idea somewhere. and IMHO those are the best.
So a gallon and a half of liquid is what we're looking for huh? If I do braze a bung in there that seems like a good calibration method for the dipstick.
Just buying a new pan would be great, finances aside, if I bought a new oil pan, it would be the best looking part of the engine. We cannot have that. I'd like to try my hand at building a stroker some time next year if the stars align properly. That machine will be getting all of the freshly harvested cabbage.
this one just needs to get me through the winter.
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I have heard also that a dual sump pan from a fox bodied car(mustang, fairmont, etc) will fit in these trucks, but they have two drain plugs and you can't hardly get to the front drain plug.
On the dipstick, find out how much oil you are supposed to use. Just pour in all of it except one quart. Run the engine some, it won't hurt it to be one quart low. Let it sit for awhile to let the oil drain back, and then pull the dipstick and check the level. Take a hacksaw and make a mark where the level is, that is your "add on quart" mark. Then put the other quart in, let it sit, and then pull the dipstick and make another mark with the hacksaw, that is your "full" mark.
The bolt in the side of the pan sounds like a big aggravation to me. I had to mark my dipstick because the rear sump pan I got at the junkyard had a crushed dipstick tube. I just when to the store and got some 3/8 fuel line and made my own tube, and used the old dipstick from the front.
On the dipstick, find out how much oil you are supposed to use. Just pour in all of it except one quart. Run the engine some, it won't hurt it to be one quart low. Let it sit for awhile to let the oil drain back, and then pull the dipstick and check the level. Take a hacksaw and make a mark where the level is, that is your "add on quart" mark. Then put the other quart in, let it sit, and then pull the dipstick and make another mark with the hacksaw, that is your "full" mark.
The bolt in the side of the pan sounds like a big aggravation to me. I had to mark my dipstick because the rear sump pan I got at the junkyard had a crushed dipstick tube. I just when to the store and got some 3/8 fuel line and made my own tube, and used the old dipstick from the front.
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