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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Differences between E250 and E350

I did a search but didn't find anything specific.

I'm really looking at my 1993 specifically but any information would be nice.

It seems that when looking up suspension parts, almost everything says it works for E250 and E350.

What are the differences?

I know there are drastic differences in the E150 -> E250 move. The frame itself is substantially beefier.

In the specs the rear GAWR is about 900lbs higher on the E350's but they use the same axle as the E250 (Dana 60). If that is the case what is the difference then? The springs?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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I kind of remember reading somewhere that the 350 frames are slightly thicker.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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The E350's have the full floating rear diff. E250's are usually the semi floaters.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
The E350's have the full floating rear diff. E250's are usually the semi floaters.
Ahh, well that could be a definite improvement. Bearing failure on semi floating is somewhat of a concern for me. Maybe i'll look for a full floating rear axle with some 4.10's

Here is another thing that makes me wonder. Both the E250 and the E350 have the same GCWR (assuming the same 5.8l engine with 3.73) of 13000 lbs with the trailer weight listed at 7600lbs. By subtracting the maximum trailer weight you are looking at 5400lbs which is approximately the curb weight of a cargo van.

This leads me to believe that as far as towing capacity the only thing ford considered is the engine and rear axle ratio. This means difference between E250 and E350 makes zero difference for towing assuming the same engine.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmanb13
Ahh, well that could be a definite improvement. Bearing failure on semi floating is somewhat of a concern for me. Maybe i'll look for a full floating rear axle with some 4.10's

Here is another thing that makes me wonder. Both the E250 and the E350 have the same GCWR (assuming the same 5.8l engine with 3.73) of 13000 lbs with the trailer weight listed at 7600lbs. By subtracting the maximum trailer weight you are looking at 5400lbs which is approximately the curb weight of a cargo van.

This leads me to believe that as far as towing capacity the only thing ford considered is the engine and rear axle ratio. This means difference between E250 and E350 makes zero difference for towing assuming the same engine.
The '92+ E-250 & 350 frames are the same. It is not true that all 350's came with FF rear axles either. Rear axles on these years are a grab bag ranging from Dana 60 full and semi float, limited slip and open, up to a small few with Dana 70's FF, both open and limited slip (Trac-Loc). DOT will go by actual door sticker, but rated towing capacity varies as well by components on each vehicle. Towing capacities also increase with gear ratio. Example: My 2003, E-350 has a GVWR of 9400 lbs. and rated max trailer weight of 9600 lb. Max TW would have been higher if I had 4.10 gearing, but I'm glad I don't! FYI, if you are looking for a FF axle, you are more likely to find one in an extended passenger van than any other configuration. Cheers!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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At least for my year model, the e250 wasn't even listed in the dealer brochure for the passenger "wagon" model, only the e150 and e350.

The 2006 Vehicle Specifications document only shows the following differences:

Front Springs ratings -
e250 1924 to 2318lbs,
e350 2101 to 2670lbs

Rear springs ratings -
e250 2350lbs,
e350 2775lbs

Axle -
e250 Dana 9.75",
e350 Dana 9.75" HD and 10.5" for Extended

Shocks -
e250 1.19in piston (std),
e350 1.38in piston (optional on e250)

Frame maximum side rail section -
e250 6.16 x 3.18 x 0.181in,
e350 7.69 x 3.18 x 0.212in

Frame section modulus -
e250 3.30in,
e350 5.44in

So the only real differences appear to be springs, shocks, rear axle, and frame.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VOODOO7.3
The '92+ E-250 & 350 frames are the same. It is not true that all 350's came with FF rear axles either. Rear axles on these years are a grab bag ranging from Dana 60 full and semi float, limited slip and open, up to a small few with Dana 70's FF, both open and limited slip (Trac-Loc). DOT will go by actual door sticker, but rated towing capacity varies as well by components on each vehicle. Towing capacities also increase with gear ratio. Example: My 2003, E-350 has a GVWR of 9400 lbs. and rated max trailer weight of 9600 lb. Max TW would have been higher if I had 4.10 gearing, but I'm glad I don't! FYI, if you are looking for a FF axle, you are more likely to find one in an extended passenger van than any other configuration. Cheers!
I know not all E350's came with FF's. But it sure seems like a whole lot more of the 92-98 SRW E350's have FF's then the SRW 99+ E350's! I found that out while looking for a 99+ E350 Disc brake rear diff for my 89 E350. I was pretty shocked to see quite a few E350 Superduty SRW vans with semi floaters. I never thought I'd see a E350 van with a semi floater. And I've also had a few 75-91 E250's that came with FF's.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
I know not all E350's came with FF's. But it sure seems like a whole lot more of the 92-98 SRW E350's have FF's then the SRW 99+ E350's! I found that out while looking for a 99+ E350 Disc brake rear diff for my 89 E350. I was pretty shocked to see quite a few E350 Superduty SRW vans with semi floaters. I never thought I'd see a E350 van with a semi floater. And I've also had a few 75-91 E250's that came with FF's.
Yes, particularly in 97-98 you can even find a handful of E-350 EB passenger vans that came with the 5" wider Dana 70-2U(tracks same width as front without wheel spacers). It also has the 10.5" ring gear and rated around 7k. IMHO, the Holy Grail of van axles, if you can find one with disc brakes! I know because there's one with less than 100k on it sitting in my garage awaiting 35 spline axle shafts, full re-build and a Tru-Trac with 3.73 gearing. I was disappointed that Ford had used a Dana 60 semi-floater behind the International 444 in my 2003! The only reason for switching from 3.55 to 3.73 is I'll be running 33" tires when I do the swap and it already has aftermarket springs, shocks, etc. all around.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VOODOO7.3
Yes, particularly in 97-98 you can even find a handful of E-350 EB passenger vans that came with the 5" wider Dana 70-2U(tracks same width as front without wheel spacers). It also has the 10.5" ring gear and rated around 7k. IMHO, the Holy Grail of van axles, if you can find one with disc brakes! I know because there's one with less than 100k on it sitting in my garage awaiting 35 spline axle shafts, full re-build and a Tru-Trac with 3.73 gearing. I was disappointed that Ford had used a Dana 60 semi-floater behind the International 444 in my 2003! The only reason for switching from 3.55 to 3.73 is I'll be running 33" tires when I do the swap and it already has aftermarket springs, shocks, etc. all around.
It took me some searching but I found this 2000.5 disc brake D60 FF with 4.10 gears and LS. It should be plenty strong for my van.


 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Is that out of a van?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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Is that out of a van?
Yep, 2000 E350 Superduty with a V10.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fordman75
It took me some searching but I found this 2000.5 disc brake D60 FF with 4.10 gears and LS. It should be plenty strong for my van.


That'll work great! Here's the D70 FF Wide Track opened up:

 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 12:34 PM
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Great Score.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 02:13 PM
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There were enough differences for me, when I ordered a new 2002 E350 15 Passenger V-10 from the factory, back in October 2001.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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what will be the pros and cons about a fully floated axle? dont know the difference... :/
 
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