Adaptive cruise control = collision avoidance?
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Disagree. I hope I'm long dead before self driving cars are mandatory.
I love to drive. Though I can see where self-driving technology would come in handy for those who can no longer drive for various reasons.
I love to drive. Though I can see where self-driving technology would come in handy for those who can no longer drive for various reasons.
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The other day I noticed my lane assist wasn't working. I tried everything to try and get it to engage. After resetting all my settings I gave up and was going to take it to the dealer. I then looked at my radio and noticed the button above it. I pressed it and suddenly my lane assist started working again. Dunce of the year here 
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The computer checks the road 100 times a second. It is MUCH safer than you driving. The ONLY instance of a system like this failing was in a Tesla that the perfect circumstances happened to fall into place. Tesla fixed it so that circumstance can't happen again. BTW the guy that got killed in that car was watching Harry Potter on his iPad. 
Self-driving cars are the way to go!! 
Self-driving cars are the way to go!!
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The collision warning is separate from and active even if adaptive cruise control is not on the vehicle. I have regular cruise and collision warning is active, it preloads and as soon as you touch the brake pedal, you get full braking immediately along with the heads up display warning, the beeping. But above is correct, it won't actually apply the brakes itself. I can see why, given the SD could be loaded, pulling a significant trailer and full application automatically could pose serious consequences when trying to perform and evasive manuveur. I can see where this would be a nice feature when traveling long distances or communizing but for me this would be overkill for how much I would actually use it.
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The problem here is not the self-driving car. Technology will prevail..eventually. The problem is the other inattentive driver that causes the accident.
I've spent a career in aviation. (I know...apple/oranges). When you fly commercial these days, very little of your flight is conducted with the pilots "hand-flying" the aircraft. The vast majority of the flight is completely automated. Statistically, flying is way more safer than driving. Now, keep in mind this is in an environment when the operating systems are highly regulated and mandated to work in concert.
I'll welcome the ACC and all the other safety devices. But I will NOT completely rely on them with the mindset that I can now pay less attention to the task at hand.
If you are keeping an appropriate distance, allowing enough stopping room and paying 100% attention to DRIVING, you and you alone will be able to avoid most accidents. That being said...**** happens as you can't control the actions of other drivers.
I've spent a career in aviation. (I know...apple/oranges). When you fly commercial these days, very little of your flight is conducted with the pilots "hand-flying" the aircraft. The vast majority of the flight is completely automated. Statistically, flying is way more safer than driving. Now, keep in mind this is in an environment when the operating systems are highly regulated and mandated to work in concert.
I'll welcome the ACC and all the other safety devices. But I will NOT completely rely on them with the mindset that I can now pay less attention to the task at hand.
If you are keeping an appropriate distance, allowing enough stopping room and paying 100% attention to DRIVING, you and you alone will be able to avoid most accidents. That being said...**** happens as you can't control the actions of other drivers.
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But if I'm lolly gagging along - which, for me will be 99.98% of the time, then make it truely stop and go.
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I've spent a career in aviation. (I know...apple/oranges). When you fly commercial these days, very little of your flight is conducted with the pilots "hand-flying" the aircraft. The vast majority of the flight is completely automated. Statistically, flying is way more safer than driving.
One of my biggest complaints about trains is they are not forced to have a TCAS system on them. It isn't not hard to install and the technology is relatively cheap compared to all the people that die on trains.
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I'm an ATP pilot too!! That is one of the reasons I feel automation is a MUST in autos. However if all the cars are self-driving you don't have "the other driver". You now have an environment that is much more like Class A or B airspace than Class E airspace. Now imagine all cars being suited with TCAS also.
One of my biggest complaints about trains is they are not forced to have a TCAS system on them. It isn't not hard to install and the technology is relatively cheap compared to all the people that die on trains.
One of my biggest complaints about trains is they are not forced to have a TCAS system on them. It isn't not hard to install and the technology is relatively cheap compared to all the people that die on trains.
Oops..apologies to the OP, I think we just did this:
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The problem with trains having TCAS, is they cant change course to avoid another train, truck, car, person, plane can change course to avoid. Most of the deaths on trains are from idiot drivers trying to beat the trains or pedestrians crossing tracks, or walking on tracks with ear buds and can't hear the train. They are working on PTC, positive train control, but so far it doesn't work well. A friend is a conductor, his train stopped because PTC thought there was a siding they were on when there was no siding, they had to disconnect the ptc to get the train going again to quit blocking the tracks and other trains.
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla...appens-2016-12
http://fortune.com/2016/08/06/tesla-...spital-rescue/
http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla...appens-2016-12
http://fortune.com/2016/08/06/tesla-...spital-rescue/
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I am looking at simply stopping if another train is on the track you are on. People and cars can't be controlled. However with GPS and the trains talking to one another when they get within lets say 5 miles of one another the system could stop the trains if they were on a collision course.
Back to ACC now!!!
Back to ACC now!!!
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I am looking at simply stopping if another train is on the track you are on. People and cars can't be controlled. However with GPS and the trains talking to one another when they get within lets say 5 miles of one another the system could stop the trains if they were on a collision course.
Back to ACC now!!!
Back to ACC now!!!