Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Where do I go now? EOT vs ECT

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:21 PM
  #1  
2006powerstroke90's Avatar
2006powerstroke90
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 6
Where do I go now? EOT vs ECT

Okay, as you guys know I just replaced my oil cooler and did an EGR delete but today on my way home I saw ECT 190 EOT 210 so I'm getting a 20* delta now.

Since my egr is deleted do I not worry?

The day before I did the oil cooler I did a complete coolant flush and back flushed the oil cooler, the day after I did the oil cooler I installed a coolant filter.

Do I tear it all back apart and do the oil cooler again? Any input would be appreciated.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:45 PM
  #2  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
Did you back flush or get the radiator cleaned before bolting it all back up?
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:48 PM
  #3  
2006powerstroke90's Avatar
2006powerstroke90
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 6
Radiator was removed and brought to a local rad shop and they flushed it and cleaned it, $110 later
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:57 PM
  #4  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
Damn! There must have still been materials in the block assuming they did a good job.

Sensors OK?

While you don't have an Egr cooler to worry about, it's not doing its primary job of cooling oil. The salvage operation is to drain, remove water pump, and back flush through the oil cooler output port to try to blow out any debris that clogged the new cooler. If that doesn't work, it's another cooler.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 05:59 PM
  #5  
2006powerstroke90's Avatar
2006powerstroke90
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 6
I would imagine they do a good job my shop uses them without issue.

Is there a way to test the sensors? This morning I saw a 5.5* difference between them after sitting for 1.5 days
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:07 PM
  #6  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
Sounds like the shop is good then.

That's a good clue, the 5 degree differential. Hopefully it's just a sensor issue. Coming from a world of more specialized sensors then these, you can both a zero shift and a gain (high value) shift. I would check to see if both the oil and coolant sensors on your year truck are the same part number. If so you could flip them in positions, or just replace the oil sensor as that's the one elevated from normal. I'd first check that the connections are good after the rework.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:09 PM
  #7  
2006powerstroke90's Avatar
2006powerstroke90
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 6
https://m.summitracing.com/parts/smp-tx61

I found these at my local parts warehouse both show the same part # for EOT and ECT sensors

Only difference I see is the OEM ones have o rings and these have teflon tape, for $13 I might try that first if not I'll be ordered another oil cooler.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:17 PM
  #8  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
I know from direct information that Ford keeps a tighter control of its sensors manufacturing spec, including the Motorcraft aftermarket. Considering the task your trying to avoid, I think I'd be going with the Motorcraft just to be sure.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

5 BEST / 5 WORST Ford Daily Drivers of the 21st Century

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

 Brett Foote
story-3

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-5

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-8

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-9

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:22 PM
  #9  
2006powerstroke90's Avatar
2006powerstroke90
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 6
They also have OE parts as well but they are about $30 a sensor. From what I have been vigorously reading the proper way to test the deltas is 65MPH on a flat road for 20 minutes or so?

I should probably note living in CT and living in the north end of CT it's very hilly and I usually cruise around 85 mph and I noticed the temps going up a steep grade, I know I'm trying to make the numbers seem logical in my mind but I really don't want to do another oil cooler again...lol
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 06:29 PM
  #10  
navistarnut's Avatar
navistarnut
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 18
From: NW IA
It's possible your 5.5* spread is more than that as temps rise....i.e the sensor is more out of whack at higher temps, however going 85 and hilly is not the best way to judge things....you really should do the Ford test.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 07:12 PM
  #11  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
60mph flat road, 15 minutes will do if the truck had been driving 30 minutes.

The problem is the specfic heat differences between coolant and oil, and as you add heat into the oil due to higher engine workloads it can't get absorbed by the coolant fast enough, so the oil to coolant temp differential will rise.

Mike, the only "Ford" test is the acceleration one.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 07:49 PM
  #12  
navistarnut's Avatar
navistarnut
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 18
From: NW IA
Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
60mph flat road, 15 minutes will do if the truck had been driving 30 minutes.

The problem is the specfic heat differences between coolant and oil, and as you add heat into the oil due to higher engine workloads it can't get absorbed by the coolant fast enough, so the oil to coolant temp differential will rise.

Mike, the only "Ford" test is the acceleration one.
Hmmm, thought I saw a flow chart somewhere for Ford techs for the flat surface driving.......what is the acceleration one you refer to Jack?
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 08:41 PM
  #13  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
This is the only official test I've ever seen from Ford.




This is where the flat road test began, friggin guy ...

EOT vs. ECT after oil cooler replacement - Page 3 - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

Or maybe I'm on drugs. But how I remember it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 08:52 PM
  #14  
BLADE35's Avatar
BLADE35
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 19,075
Likes: 247
From: Saratoga Springs,UT
Crap tyler looks like a bad sensor


they should be within 1-2*
your at 5.5* at cold soak and it might get worse as it heats up meaning not Linear
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2016 | 08:57 PM
  #15  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,838
Likes: 3,143
From: Jersey Shore
Hopefully, not the reason for swapping oil coolers in the first place.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04 PM.

story-0
5 BEST / 5 WORST Ford Daily Drivers of the 21st Century

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford daily drivers of the 21st century.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-23 08:55:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

Slideshow: 10 Fords to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-22 14:29:44


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

The latest Expedition is quite popular, but it certainly isn't perfect.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-22 14:23:19


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-5
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-7
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE