2011 6.7 dropped #5 cylinder
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Some of you guys should come down to the 6.7L forum and take a look around.
The issue is that the exhaust valve cracks and comes apart, dropping chunks into the cylinder. We've seen a bunch of these show up in the 6.7L forum, and I can't remember any that got away with anything less than a complete engine replacement.
Not really, these things are very expensive to replace. Another FTE member in my area used to own a shop, and he quoted a guy over $16,000 for the installation of a remanufactured engine. The option cost on the window sticker matters very little when it comes to repair cost.
This particular issue is well documented, and it only affects 2011 model year engines. If I were the OP, I'd track down a junkyard engine from a 2012-2014 truck and have the shop install it. Could probably be done for under $10,000 that way, and the truck should be good for a LONG time assuming the engine was taken care of in the donor truck.
Moved to the 6.7L forum.
This particular issue is well documented, and it only affects 2011 model year engines. If I were the OP, I'd track down a junkyard engine from a 2012-2014 truck and have the shop install it. Could probably be done for under $10,000 that way, and the truck should be good for a LONG time assuming the engine was taken care of in the donor truck.
Moved to the 6.7L forum.
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In the years that the 6.7L has been out, I can count on my hands how many engines I've replaced, namely ONE. Oh, and the replacement long block from Ford happens to be a 2015 model year part number on the box it comes in, with a yellow decal on the crankcase breather box to indicate it is equipped with the updated glow plugs, along with the stamped steel oil pan to replace the original plastic pan the original engine came with. Checking the part number for a replacement long block for my 2016 truck returns the same part number as I as installed in the 2011 truck I did.
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In the years that the 6.7L has been out, I can count on my hands how engines I've replaced, namely ONE. Oh, and the replacement long block from Ford happens to be a 2015 model year part number on the box it comes in, with a yellow decal on the crankcase breather box to indicate it is equipped with the updated glow plugs, along with the stamped steel oil pan to replace the original plastic pan the original engine came with. Checking the part number for a replacement long block for my 2016 truck returns the same part number as I as installed in the 2011 truck I did.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-warranty.html
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In the years that the 6.7L has been out, I can count on my hands how engines I've replaced, namely ONE. Oh, and the replacement long block from Ford happens to be a 2015 model year part number on the box it comes in, with a yellow decal on the crankcase breather box to indicate it is equipped with the updated glow plugs, along with the stamped steel oil pan to replace the original plastic pan the original engine came with. Checking the part number for a replacement long block for my 2016 truck returns the same part number as I as installed in the 2011 truck I did.
OP, there's a thread in the 6.7 forum about a failed engine at 89k if you want a long discussion to read.
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If you search this forum and others you will find several threads of the early 2011's value failures and causing catastrophic damage to the engine. FORD went from a two piece value to a one piece in the late 2011 engines to address the issue. It's probably less than 1% of the early builds failing but who knows as they pile on the mileage. But if it happens to you it stinks. I traded my early build 2011 a couple months ago for a 2016 for this very reason. FORD won't do anything and put's the repair cost solely on the owner. Below is the latest thread on this issue.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-warranty.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-warranty.html
Read through this thread for more info:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ked-block.html
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Every time that I read one of these threads about an early 6.7 blowing an Engine it makes me sick. I traded my nearly paid off 2011 F250 last year on a new 2016 not because I wanted to, but because of the potential for a Valve failure that has claimed many early 6.7 engines. I'm a retiree living on a fixed income and can not afford to replace an engine out of pocket. I feel guilty for trading in my truck knowing that it's new owner probably has no clue about the early 6.7 problem, but I considered mine a Ticking Time bomb and wanted to be rid of it. It's my opinion warranty limitations or not FOMOCO should take at least some responsibility for making and selling a product with an inherent defect, and later correcting the condition on future engines. It is well established that these trucks are purchased by some owners who expect them to run without a Major malfunction in excess of 200K mi
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Sorry - this is not necessarily true... With rare exception (racing / extreme duty) all valves start out life as two pieces and are resistance welded, machined, tempered, final polished and seats ground. I suspect that in the case of the early valves, there was a problem with the heat treatment of some of the valves.
Read through this thread for more info:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ked-block.html
Read through this thread for more info:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ked-block.html
My apologies and you are correct that it did have something to do with the heat treatment and a supplier manufacturing the values at the time of the early 2011's. I believe the initial diagnosis is the glow plug breaking and if so, there is a TSB that says don't tear down the engine any further and replace the block, or something to that effect.
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No worrys here Bob...
I agree also that Ford needs to step up and recall these earlier trucks... It will be expensive for them, no doubt, but perhaps they'll do a better job of tracking the parts and components that went into these trucks.. The aircraft industry already does this and I'm dead certain that the cost of doing this is passed onto the customer and eventually all of us as consumers.
I agree also that Ford needs to step up and recall these earlier trucks... It will be expensive for them, no doubt, but perhaps they'll do a better job of tracking the parts and components that went into these trucks.. The aircraft industry already does this and I'm dead certain that the cost of doing this is passed onto the customer and eventually all of us as consumers.
#26
2011 had GP issues too. Different damage then a dropped valve. Those are probably the motors that can just get a new piston and cylinder head work? Maybe m-chan can answer that.
Like Nipperdog, keeping one of these beasts past a warranty is too much stress for me. Unfortunately, it means I will always have a payment, but to me better to have that fixed cost then an unfortunate large expense. I also can't turn wrenches anymore either. I bought an extended warranty and just before that runs out, truck gets traded in. Realistically, after 5-6 years, I want the latest and greatest anyways. Just my .02. I can understand the need to have one for 10-15 years and put 300k+ on it without a motor issue.
Like Nipperdog, keeping one of these beasts past a warranty is too much stress for me. Unfortunately, it means I will always have a payment, but to me better to have that fixed cost then an unfortunate large expense. I also can't turn wrenches anymore either. I bought an extended warranty and just before that runs out, truck gets traded in. Realistically, after 5-6 years, I want the latest and greatest anyways. Just my .02. I can understand the need to have one for 10-15 years and put 300k+ on it without a motor issue.
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Many of us would strongly disagree with that. Bill Hewitt is a charlatan who plays one on YouTube.
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