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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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10-speed

Thought this was interesting. While testing the 2017 F150, Kent Sundling wanted a hint from the engineer regarding 10-speeds on upcoming Super Duties. I take it as an unofficial yes.
https://youtu.be/umhgJHgi24I
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Yup, as soon as they can make it strong enough handle the 500+hp and 1000lb+tq they will have in a couple years.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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What about 385hp & 430ft-lbs?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2016 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFordLover
What about 385hp & 430ft-lbs?
No, the EcoBoost 5L V8 will have over 650 lb-ft. Haha j/k I have no idea.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 12:55 PM
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I'm still holding out hope for an early spring flash update to make the transmission a 10-speed.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 01:08 PM
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I'm still holding out hope for an early spring flash update to make the transmission a 10-speed.
A flash won't add gears, solenoids or clutches.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
A flash won't add gears, solenoids or clutches.
It will add a sarcasm detector, though.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rocket_scientist
It will add a sarcasm detector, though.
I was just about to say, he's a rocket scientist, pretty sure he was trolling! (joking)

 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:10 PM
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Hell, I want this!!


Or maybe even this!!!!!!

No wannabe trucks for me!!!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Or maybe even this!!!!!!

No wannabe trucks for me!!!
So is this a 20 speed? 1-5 (plus reverse) in each of 4 gears? Or 1-4 in each of 5 gears (plus reverse)?

Never driven a BIG truck before.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:34 PM
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Just bought my wife a car and it has a 8 sp trans, also has a V8 and 420+ HP and massive torque. we traded in her earlier model with a 6 sp. The 6 spd struggled to see 14 mpg, this 8 sp gives 20 mpg with ease and straight hiway about 23...

More gears seems to give better mpg overall
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
So is this a 20 speed? 1-5 (plus reverse) in each of 4 gears? Or 1-4 in each of 5 gears (plus reverse)?

Never driven a BIG truck before.
�������� I only have a couple million miles behind me!!!!
Yup....5 speed main/ 4 speed aux= 20 forward+4 reverse!!!!
Sometimes ya gotta hook your left arm thru the steering wheel and shift both sticks at the same time!!! FUN!!!!!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 99150
�������� I only have a couple million miles behind me!!!!
Yup....5 speed main/ 4 speed aux= 20 forward+4 reverse!!!!
Sometimes ya gotta hook your left arm thru the steering wheel and shift both sticks at the same time!!! FUN!!!!!
Twin Stick Pappy - YouTube
That's basically what the 10 speed is doing for you automatically, shifting both sticks as necessary to get the proper gear for the current situation.

Thanks for the video BTW!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
That's basically what the 10 speed is doing for you automatically, shifting both sticks as necessary to get the proper gear for the current situation.

Thanks for the video BTW!
Yeah, but what fun is that???? Jusk kidding, I sure like my 6R140 behind the 6.7 PSD.......put it in D and forget it!! Maybe push the tow/haul button.
Reality is, I have driven enough of the big rigs that I don't need to have a manual to feel manly!!
 
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 03:15 PM
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I much prefer a 13 speed or 18 speed to the twin sticks. CB Mic used to get tangled in the sticks. Any way you look at it there is a lot of wasted time dropping RPMS going up or building RPMS in neutral coming back down. The high torque rise engines don't need as many gears but the limited rpm operating range is requires more splits to make maximum speed.

For these trucks the 10 speed might be fun but I am not convinced it will make huge strides in performance or efficiency unless something radical happens to the PSD regarding torque/horsepower band.
 
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