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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 09:54 AM
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Does anyone have any info on when we may see some new engine options? I want a 2017 with a 5.0 EB!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:27 AM
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Only options are the 6.2L, 6.7L and the V10
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:35 AM
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Only options are the 6.2L, 6.7L and the V10
And the V-10 is only available cab/chassis
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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From what heard, the 6.2 has a good track record. It hasnt been out too long, but i remember last year hearing about a guy who had over 200,000 on his 6.2 toe truck and said all he ever did was change the oil, and it still ran like new.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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The 6.2L is a good engine. Both the 6.2L and 6.7L see changes for 2017. That's great news, considering they could have just carried over the these engines unchanged and still been very competitive.

The 6.2L is a very good, low-maintenance, low cost of operation engine. It makes good power, has some advanced features, and should last longer than most of us will own our trucks. Biggest complaints were the power coming at too high an RPM level, and fuel consumption. For 2017, the torque has been bumper up 25lb-ft (significant) and at 700RPM less (very significant.) Supposedly fuel economy will improve, albeit slightly.

The 6.7L has also established itself as a very reliable and powerful engine. For 2017, the torque is increased 65lb-ft albeit at 200 RPM higher.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:10 PM
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You might see an EB after Ford sees if the 17 F150 with 375/470 and both DI and port injection works out. If they put turbos on the 5.0 they would have to keep the power quite a bit less than the 6.7 or it would bite into their highly profitable Powerstroke.
I am also not sure if an ecoboost could handle the severe duty that a lot of SD's see.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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My 6.2 has 212k and doing great. Gas mileage is horrible. Might go to a 2017 150 max tow EB with 385hp/470lb and 10 speed auto.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:25 PM
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The 6.7 is the superduty ecoboost
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerMunkee
My 6.2 has 212k and doing great. Gas mileage is horrible. Might go to a 2017 150 max tow EB with 385hp/470lb and 10 speed auto.
I wonder what the 6.2 mpg will be now with the new tranny in the f250. since they dont have to publish it, we probably know till someone buys one and gives us real world numbers.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
You might see an EB after Ford sees if the 17 F150 with 375/470 and both DI and port injection works out. If they put turbos on the 5.0 they would have to keep the power quite a bit less than the 6.7 or it would bite into their highly profitable Powerstroke.
I am also not sure if an ecoboost could handle the severe duty that a lot of SD's see.
6.7L has massively stronger internals compared to any of the Ford EcoBoost lineup, which are still great engines. Diesel fuel contains more energy per unit than gasoline. It would be hard, if not impossible, to ever beat a diesel engine in a heavy truck when comparing torque, efficiency, and longevity.

If there was to be an EcoBoost in a Super Duty, I'd like it to be larger displacement (maybe 5.0) but reduced output (350HP, 450lb-ft). This would still provide great towing characteristics but also provide likely better efficiency and longevity.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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Is the new 6.2 DI? If so, have they worked out all the valve coking/carbon issues that are common on DI engines.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 01:05 PM
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Is the new 6.2 DI? If so, have they worked out all the valve coking/carbon issues that are common on DI engines.
6.2L is still port injection.

The solution to DI coking is what they've done on the gen-2 3.5L with both DI and port injection.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 01:26 PM
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6.2L is still port injection.

The solution to DI coking is what they've done on the gen-2 3.5L with both DI and port injection.
Im glad to hear that. Im sure they have the DI worked out, but i still feel better with the tried and proven design. I do remember reading about that, where they use port injection just enough to clean/ coat valves with fuel, while the rest of the time running DI.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 01:31 PM
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Im glad to hear that. Im sure they have the DI worked out, but i still feel better with the tried and proven design. I do remember reading about that, where they use port injection just enough to clean/ coat valves with fuel, while the rest of the time running DI.
Manufacturers claim the DI / Port combo has other advantages beyond just cleaning the backs of intake valves. Who knows.

In our family, we have two other EcoBoost products - a 2010 Lincoln MKS with the 3.5 EB, and a 2016 F-150 with the 2.7L EB. Both are awesome motors. But, at what point will coking cause the intake valve to not seat completely and cause the MIL to light up? Cleaning is perfectly possible, but expensive on most DI engines.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2016 | 01:45 PM
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Manufacturers claim the DI / Port combo has other advantages beyond just cleaning the backs of intake valves. Who knows.

In our family, we have two other EcoBoost products - a 2010 Lincoln MKS with the 3.5 EB, and a 2016 F-150 with the 2.7L EB. Both are awesome motors. But, at what point will coking cause the intake valve to not seat completely and cause the MIL to light up? Cleaning is perfectly possible, but expensive on most DI engines.
They say if you tow a lot or drive it hard, the valves will stay fairly clean. Its the low rpms and idling thats causes the valves to build up. And as far as cleaning them, ive heard the only solution is to take the heads off or they may be able to uses that walnut blast with the heads still on, but yes, im sure its expensive. And it may not ever even get that bad enough to need it.
 
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