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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Pressure high in the fuel pump to carb line? If it's too high then the needle and seat can't hold the gas from entering the carb's bowl. And that fuel will come out the bowl vents. If you have an electric fuel pump then maybe the pressure regulator not working right. If mechanical pump then isolate heat from the pump to carb line. I have heard heat in the gas in that line, on the verge of vapor lock, can cause higher pressure.
On the different temp exhaust manifold, my 1st reaction was plugged,smashed, or kinked R/S exhaust pipe or muffler if you have duals. Did you run over something in the road recently?
Absolutely no kinks in the exhaust as its still stock other than a new muffler. And replaced the new seat with the old one and no more boil over but there's still a lot of pressure there when it sits
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 05:57 PM
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Still sounds like a flapper. It doesn't matter if the part # is 1969, they've used the heat crossover butterfly since at least 54 when the first Y block came out.
The flapper isn't exactly part of the manifold, it's sandwiched between the manifold and header pipe.
Damn I'm ignorant I'll go have another look in a few as I just grazed over it when I looked earlier
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by willowbilly3
Still sounds like a flapper. It doesn't matter if the part # is 1969, they've used the heat crossover butterfly since at least 54 when the first Y block came out.
The flapper isn't exactly part of the manifold, it's sandwiched between the manifold and header pipe.
Willow has a point here. The flap was on the right side of the motor if it had one. In it's own housing sandwiched between the exhaust manifold and the exhaust pipe. If it were closed or mostly closed it would try to send that side's exhaust under the carb and over to the left bank. This passage usually gets plugged up. So then the exhaust manifold tries to get rid of the exhaust but can't for the most part. That would heat it up.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
Willow has a point here. The flap was on the right side of the motor if it had one. In it's own housing sandwiched between the exhaust manifold and the exhaust pipe. If it were closed or mostly closed it would try to send that side's exhaust under the carb and over to the left bank. This passage usually gets plugged up. So then the exhaust manifold tries to get rid of the exhaust but can't for the most part. That would heat it up.
I think I see what you're talking about now but I don't see how I can fix it? Take off the manifold I'm assuming?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Do you have any other performance issues other than ray gun readings?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 07:05 PM
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I think I see what you're talking about now but I don't see how I can fix it? Take off the manifold I'm assuming?
Not necessarily. If your rig has one it is in it's own housing. Lawd knows if your engine and exhaust manifolds are factory original or something the PO installed. If it does indeed have one, disconnect the exhaust head pipe and remove the flap and housing (exhaust thermostat control valve) assembly from the exhaust manifold. Clean all the rust etc off it. Soak the shaft and bushings where it pivots with your favorite penetrant.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:16 PM
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Not necessarily. If your rig has one it is in it's own housing. Lawd knows if your engine and exhaust manifolds are factory original or something the PO installed. If it does indeed have one, disconnect the exhaust head pipe and remove the flap and housing (exhaust thermostat control valve) assembly from the exhaust manifold. Clean all the rust etc off it. Soak the shaft and bushings where it pivots with your favorite penetrant.
I'll be ordering headers for the truck so when I replace these logs I'll fix the valve up refurbish them and keep them for a rainy day. But appreciate the help! I'm sure this is my whole issue
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 12:22 AM
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Insulate the metal fuel line. Even fiberglass electrical tape will help.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 06:42 AM
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Still running a spacer under that carb?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 03:36 PM
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Disconnect the mechanical fan blowing air around the engine and re-shoot the temperature.

Collapsed manifold? I've got a bridge to sell him...... what about a raccoon?
Not challenging you, Hio. Just trying to figure out your thought process.
What is behind your suggestion to disconnect the fan?

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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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Not challenging you, Hio. Just trying to figure out your thought process.
What is behind your suggestion to disconnect the fan?

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The fan blows cooler air over the manifold (mainly the driver side) so you'll get different results, but in my case it didn't affect it much
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 08:02 PM
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I think we are chasing the wrong problem.

The hot manifold is not too hot, rather the other one is too cool.

So what would cause one manifold to be cooler? Usually Dead cylinders cause that. But he says their are no other issues.

So what else can cause a cold manifold?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 08:24 PM
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I think we are chasing the wrong problem.

The hot manifold is not too hot, rather the other one is too cool.

So what would cause one manifold to be cooler? Usually Dead cylinders cause that. But he says their are no other issues.

So what else can cause a cold manifold?
I had thought of some cylinder issues but all ports matched up with entire manifold temp, and the engine runs fine just runs hot it seems
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Your 470 manifold is about on par. Although still kinda low IMO. I've never seen a 350 manifold on a warm running engine.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 11:01 PM
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Your 470 manifold is about on par. Although still kinda low IMO. I've never seen a 350 manifold on a warm running engine.
Just to clarify, the readings I'm saying is taken at 2 feet from the Y pipe, it maintains a 100° or so difference on every measurement taken.
 
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