Diesel owners
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Diesel owners
So I was wondering after seeing some post while looking into new superduty, would someone like me who drives shorter distances around town be ok with a diesel? I had a 15 and it was fine however I read On here that anyone that does that is asking for problems, is this true wouldn't mind maybe going with a new 6.7 when my lease is up soon.
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during the week i drive under 5 to 10 miles a day. On the weekends we go camping up to a few hours away. I think you will be fine. As long as you have a nice long drive every week or so. (long being subjective of course, long enough for a regen to run on the exhaust system).
Ive had my 2014 6.7 diesel for 40k and it is doing great. around 8 thousand miles per oil change (per the smart oil monitor).
Just my opinion though.
Ive had my 2014 6.7 diesel for 40k and it is doing great. around 8 thousand miles per oil change (per the smart oil monitor).
Just my opinion though.
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during the week i drive under 5 to 10 miles a day. On the weekends we go camping up to a few hours away. I think you will be fine. As long as you have a nice long drive every week or so. (long being subjective of course, long enough for a regen to run on the exhaust system).
Ive had my 2014 6.7 diesel for 40k and it is doing great. around 8 thousand miles per oil change (per the smart oil monitor).
Just my opinion though.
Ive had my 2014 6.7 diesel for 40k and it is doing great. around 8 thousand miles per oil change (per the smart oil monitor).
Just my opinion though.
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I drive a lot of short trips on my '16 as well, but I mix plenty of longer drives in as well. I think the real key to staying out of trouble with regens is to be willing to take the truck for a 20+ mile drive when you see the message. I've certainly shut the truck down quickly plenty of times when I see the message, but it comes right back, and I find time to schedule a quick run up the highway.
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YES! Would still be nice to get the feature in the higher trims.
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True, but if I have to run the truck anyways....
May as well blaze down the highway 😎
May as well blaze down the highway 😎
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From: Boise
So I was wondering after seeing some post while looking into new superduty, would someone like me who drives shorter distances around town be ok with a diesel? I had a 15 and it was fine however I read On here that anyone that does that is asking for problems, is this true wouldn't mind maybe going with a new 6.7 when my lease is up soon.
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Hey storm, that's a sharp truck in your sig line!
I think short trips could be problematic, no different than any vehicle in my mind anyway, doing short trips in a gasser too. I think with any vehicle, it will retain its original like new condition longer if the drive train is run to operating temp regularly. Mostly due to condensation, fuel burn, emissions. Water in the exhaust, relatively cool fuel burn can be messy, and the emissions system doesn't work until it has enough heat, most of the vehicles systems use heat to function.
That being said, the truck has a warranty, you can extend the warranty, and just drive it however you want with nothing to worry about really.
I think short trips could be problematic, no different than any vehicle in my mind anyway, doing short trips in a gasser too. I think with any vehicle, it will retain its original like new condition longer if the drive train is run to operating temp regularly. Mostly due to condensation, fuel burn, emissions. Water in the exhaust, relatively cool fuel burn can be messy, and the emissions system doesn't work until it has enough heat, most of the vehicles systems use heat to function.
That being said, the truck has a warranty, you can extend the warranty, and just drive it however you want with nothing to worry about really.
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Agree, NStorm, that Ruby Red Platiunum is very fetching.
Lots has been made about short trips and idling in the modern diesels. Ford's take is that basically it is bad for the vehicle, but they are designing these things to be able to withstand it if they must. For example, I believe warranty on the diesel is 5 years, 100k miles, and no more than 20% idling hours compared to total hours. On the other hand, Ford tests the 6.7L to be able to idle for 24 hours for a continuous period in very cold weather environments.
Idling really isn't great for any vehicle, for the reasons listed by ruschejj and rain desert, but the fact is lots of vehicles idle *a lot* and survive to high mileage. Think of police cruisers.
The key is that if you are going to make a lot of short trips and / or lots of idling, change your oil more often. The diesel trucks are supposed to have an 'intelligent' oil change reminder system, based upon the culmination of your driving type, idling, oil temps, etc. The gas trucks simply have a days / miles timer.
Lots has been made about short trips and idling in the modern diesels. Ford's take is that basically it is bad for the vehicle, but they are designing these things to be able to withstand it if they must. For example, I believe warranty on the diesel is 5 years, 100k miles, and no more than 20% idling hours compared to total hours. On the other hand, Ford tests the 6.7L to be able to idle for 24 hours for a continuous period in very cold weather environments.
Idling really isn't great for any vehicle, for the reasons listed by ruschejj and rain desert, but the fact is lots of vehicles idle *a lot* and survive to high mileage. Think of police cruisers.
The key is that if you are going to make a lot of short trips and / or lots of idling, change your oil more often. The diesel trucks are supposed to have an 'intelligent' oil change reminder system, based upon the culmination of your driving type, idling, oil temps, etc. The gas trucks simply have a days / miles timer.
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Thank you both! Placed the order yesterday (well, it will go in on Sat...the dealership owner programs the orders...think I may attend that session). My son and I were cruising the net last night and came across that pic, I hadn't seen that one yet, so that was a nice surprise! Still love my '15, but really looking forward to this truck!
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Man regen would be your friend. An added reason to the ones above for having it on emergency vehicles is being able to perform a regen on a maintenance schedule, so it doesn't happen during an emergency run.
I think plenty of people use the truck outside its intended and ideal purpose. It will be harder on the truck, but you should be okay. That being said, if it were me, I'd buy out the longest warranty possible and dump the truck when it's expired. No way would I be interested in owning a diesel on it's second half of life these days. They don't have a high probability of failure, but if you "get lucky" and need something, it's not cheap at all. Of course I'm not at a point in life where I can afford a new diesel, and perhaps if I were I could better absorb repair cost as well (-=
I think plenty of people use the truck outside its intended and ideal purpose. It will be harder on the truck, but you should be okay. That being said, if it were me, I'd buy out the longest warranty possible and dump the truck when it's expired. No way would I be interested in owning a diesel on it's second half of life these days. They don't have a high probability of failure, but if you "get lucky" and need something, it's not cheap at all. Of course I'm not at a point in life where I can afford a new diesel, and perhaps if I were I could better absorb repair cost as well (-=
