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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 01:42 AM
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At wit's end, bad accelerator pump?

I just can't seem to put this to bed. My truck will only run half decent with a radically re curved dizzy (very little spring tension). Otherwise it stumbles and coughs though the carb during acceleration. I think I have ruled out all ignition related stuff, all of it is new. My accelerator pump seems to work, but the stream of fuel seems a little weak and not solid. I have tried adjusting it to no avail. The carb is adjusted to pull max vacuum. It seems like it just leans out so much under acceleration that it coughs. Also, when cruising, if I rapidly floor it, there is a very noticeable bog before it picks up again. Any thoughts guys? Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 08:28 AM
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Hmm....

What is your total mechanical advance?
Are you running ported or manifold vacuum?
Have you tried using vacuum to verify initial timing?
Have you checked the setting on the air valve?
What do your plugs look like (are you running too lean?)
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 08:52 AM
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Seeing as my harmonic balancer has slipped, hard to see total advance, but I did limit it a tiny bit, so it is likely around 20 degrees. The issue persists with both ported and manifold vacuum.

I am not sure how to use vacuum to verify timing, and tips?

What is the air valve? Are you referring to the vacuum advance unit?

I will check the plugs today.

Thanks for the reply!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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I would try a different carb
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Sounds like your accelerator pump diaphragm assembly or your inlet ball check
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 09:14 AM
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The possibility of slippage in the harmonic balancer is why I asked about setting initial advance with vacuum gauge. Basically you hook up a vacuum gauge and set initial (total) timing for max vacuum and then back off just a bit. More info here....

Either way, total mechanical advance is the difference between initial and when it's all in at around 3000 rpm. This should not be affected by any balancer slip. Too much could cause you to run lean. I asked because of your statement about recurved dizzy. 20 seems ok. Might even be a little low.

The air valve is what determines when your secondaries kick in. It can be adjusted - could be related to bog when cruising. Check out the info on your specific carb.

Finally, this subject can be contentious, but use manifold vacuum (unless your drag racing).
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Have you rebuilt the carb? I would do that before I did anything else if it hasn't been done already.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mountain dewd
I just can't seem to put this to bed. My truck will only run half decent with a radically re curved dizzy (very little spring tension). Otherwise it stumbles and coughs though the carb during acceleration. I think I have ruled out all ignition related stuff, all of it is new. My accelerator pump seems to work, but the stream of fuel seems a little weak and not solid. I have tried adjusting it to no avail. The carb is adjusted to pull max vacuum. It seems like it just leans out so much under acceleration that it coughs. Also, when cruising, if I rapidly floor it, there is a very noticeable bog before it picks up again. Any thoughts guys? Thanks in advance.
Your 1973 F250 360 has the 2100 series Motorcraft 2V carb. The accelerator pump and check valve are in-famous for failing. Both come in the carb kit.

D4AZ-9A586-A (replaced C2AZ-9A586-B) .. 2100 Series Auto-Lite/Motorcraft 2V Carburetor Kit (Motorcraft CT-499-D) / Available from Ford & auto parts stores.

Applications: 1962/74 Passenger Cars/Trucks, 1966/74 Broncos & 1969/74 Econolines.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Thank you all for the info. It should be noted that the problem only recurred when I went back to a stock distributor curve. I am also running manifold vacuum. I should have stated it, though it is in my signature, but my truck has an Edelbrock 650, rather than the Motorcraft 2100 series carb. I am looking to take it apart and clean it today.
 
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