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Old May 27, 2016 | 07:19 PM
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What engine is what?

Ok some one here has to have answers for me...... I know theres different family of engines Like windsor/cleveland/FE. I know everything about the windsor engines, the only thing I know about clevelands is there was a 351c and a 400. Is the 351m a cleveland engine? what about big blocks like 460/429? Cobra jet? Are the big blocks FE? and what the heck is a I6 300? Literally nowhere else has a straight answer for me.... some places were trying to say the 302 is a cleveland engine.... I know its a windsor and it being produced at cleveland doesn't make it a cleveland. So someone help me decipher what engines belong to what engine family please and thank you.
 
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Old May 27, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Old May 27, 2016 | 08:57 PM
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The 300i6 is a straight 6 cylinder engine
The 351m and the 400 are more or less the same, and are based off the the 351c except they share their bellhouseing with the 429/460s
The FEs could be considered a big block( more of a medium block) but do not share the bell houseing of any other motor they are 332 352 360 361(edsel) 390 406 410 427 428, most common strokers are 445 and 482
The 429 and 460s are the true big blocks of the group.
There is an cleavlor which is not stock it is a 351w with cleavland heads
Sorry for not a very detailed discriptuion and sorry for spelling mistakes and inaccuracies.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 12:34 AM
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Awesome that helps a lot. and by the I6 300 I meant what family does it belong to. and march, google didnt give me any straight answers and wikipedia... oh lord help wikipedia.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 12:37 AM
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The 240/300s use the Windsor bellhousing.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 02:18 AM
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These guys covered pretty much everything. The only things I would add are that the 351M and 400 (really an M too) are of the "Modified" series noted by the "M".

The FE series stands for Ford Edsel.

The 429 and 460 are "385 series" engines.

Any of the smaller engines like the 302 could be considered of the Windsor family. And of course the 351W is.

The only sort of Cleveland 302 (from the factory) would have been the Boss 302 from '69 and '70. 302 Windsor style block with 4 bbl Cleveland heads.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 06:23 AM
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I always thought "FE" stood for fuel efficient.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin Jones
These guys covered pretty much everything. The only things I would add are that the 351M and 400 (really an M too) are of the "Modified" series noted by the "M".

The FE series stands for Ford Edsel.

The 429 and 460 are "385 series" engines.

Any of the smaller engines like the 302 could be considered of the Windsor family. And of course the 351W is.

The only sort of Cleveland 302 (from the factory) would have been the Boss 302 from '69 and '70. 302 Windsor style block with 4 bbl Cleveland heads.
Just to add to the confusion, there was a 302C from the factory, but only in Australia.
That's where the closed chamber small port Cleveland heads came from.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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Just to add to the confusion, there was a 302C from the factory, but only in Australia.
That's where the closed chamber small port Cleveland heads came from.
Oh, nice! I didn't know that. I knew the Aussies used a lot of Cleveland stuff but thought it was more the 351c. I always wondered what my heads had a home on.
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 10:46 PM
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So this is how it goes:

Windsor: 351, 355, 302, 289, 260, 255, 221)
Cleveland: 351, 302c(Australia)
Modified: 400, 351
FE: 428cj, 427, 410, 406, 390, 360, 352, 332
385: 460, 429

I can say I've never heard of the 410, 406, or the 361. I know a lot of the early 70's f-series trucks had the 390 and 360. Maybe the 352?
 
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Old May 28, 2016 | 11:05 PM
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The 352fe came in the trucks 65-67 i do belive the 360 replaced it in the trucks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_FE_engine this will give you info and then some
 
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Old May 29, 2016 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'blue77
So this is how it goes:

Windsor: 351, 355, 302, 289, 260, 255, 221)
Cleveland: 351, 302c(Australia)
Modified: 400, 351
FE: 428cj, 427, 410, 406, 390, 360, 352, 332
385: 460, 429

I can say I've never heard of the 410, 406, or the 361. I know a lot of the early 70's f-series trucks had the 390 and 360. Maybe the 352?
Ford never built a 355. And the 400 is not a modified. it is just a 400. The 351m/400 and 351c all use the same type of head. And several other parts are interchangeable between them. And you could also call the Boss 302 a 302 Cleveland if you wanted to as it also used canted valve heads aka Cleveland heads.
 
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Old May 29, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ol'blue77
I can say I've never heard of the 410, 406, or the 361.

I know a lot of the early 70's f-series trucks had the 390 and 360. Maybe the 352?
361 = 1958 Edsel only, it was a slight overbore of the 352.

406 = Hipo engine available in 1962/63 full sized Ford/Mercury.

410 = 1966/67 Mercury Parklane.

F100/350: 352 = 1965/67 / 360/390 = 1968/76.
 
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Old May 30, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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That was a typo. I meant 335. I read somewhere that there was a 335 and it was only available in Australia.

NumberDummy thanks for the info.
 
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Old May 31, 2016 | 04:43 AM
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335 is the family of engines that 351m and 400 are "members" of
 
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