F350DRW vs. F450DRW (gas or diesel)
#62
In regards you would most defiantly need the F-450 and a Diesel. One thing I see was missed no one mentioned is the F-450 has larger brakes on it then the 350. Towing the weight your talking that would be a very big advantage for sure. Some talk about the 4:30 gears but have to remember the 450 has a larger tire then the 350 so the gearing is not as much different as it appears.
#63
In regards you would most defiantly need the F-450 and a Diesel. One thing I see was missed no one mentioned is the F-450 has larger brakes on it then the 350. Towing the weight your talking that would be a very big advantage for sure. Some talk about the 4:30 gears but have to remember the 450 has a larger tire then the 350 so the gearing is not as much different as it appears.
But the 450 has a much tougher rear axle, and of course gets the sharper turning circle, and the top GVWR.
#65
One difference is vacuum vs hydroboost brakes. I know rotor sizes are identical between 250 & 350 SRW models anyway. 14.29" vented front and rear IIRC.
#66
You could be correct - I don't have the specs. I'm just assuming the 450 could because of the larger rim size. A 17" tire does not allow a larger rotor and caliper than what we basically have now.
One difference is vacuum vs hydroboost brakes. I know rotor sizes are identical between 250 & 350 SRW models anyway. 14.29" vented front and rear IIRC.
One difference is vacuum vs hydroboost brakes. I know rotor sizes are identical between 250 & 350 SRW models anyway. 14.29" vented front and rear IIRC.
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#68
Good to know about the vacuum boost. I didn't realize that they added a vacuum pump just for that with the diesel.
Ford's website truck specs show the same brakes on the F250, 350 and 450. 2016 Ford Super Duty | View All Ford Super Duty Specifications | Ford.com
I do see that you get bigger brakes on the F450 chassis cab, but not the pickup. http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...ions/view-all/. For some reason that I don't understand, the chassis cab can have a 2500lb higher GVWR, yet is rated to pull nearly 10K less than the F450 pickup.
It's possible their spec page is wrong though. If the brakes are bigger on the F450, that's one more in the "plus" column when I'm trying to decide. If they just made bigger parking spaces, the decision would be easier!
Ford's website truck specs show the same brakes on the F250, 350 and 450. 2016 Ford Super Duty | View All Ford Super Duty Specifications | Ford.com
I do see that you get bigger brakes on the F450 chassis cab, but not the pickup. http://www.ford.com/commercial-truck...ions/view-all/. For some reason that I don't understand, the chassis cab can have a 2500lb higher GVWR, yet is rated to pull nearly 10K less than the F450 pickup.
It's possible their spec page is wrong though. If the brakes are bigger on the F450, that's one more in the "plus" column when I'm trying to decide. If they just made bigger parking spaces, the decision would be easier!
#69
For some reason that I don't understand, the chassis cab can have a 2500lb higher GVWR, yet is rated to pull nearly 10K less than the F450 pickup.
If the brakes are bigger on the F450, that's one more in the "plus" column when I'm trying to decide. If they just made bigger parking spaces, the decision would be easier!
If the brakes are bigger on the F450, that's one more in the "plus" column when I'm trying to decide. If they just made bigger parking spaces, the decision would be easier!
Chassis cabs cannot pull as much because they do not have as much power and torque.
#70
Concering the Frame, i guess it will be like with the old models.
Old F-250/350 Pickup had a little bit lighter frame as the F-450 Pickup which used the same frame as the F-450 cc. The F-350 cc on the other hand had that same frame, so the f-350 cc and 450 cc frame where identical. The f-550 which only was available as a cc anyway alsways had another, even stronger frame.
Now that there is a boxed frame on the 250/350 i guess the 450 pickup will use that same frame and all the cc's will still use the old c-channel frames.
Old F-250/350 Pickup had a little bit lighter frame as the F-450 Pickup which used the same frame as the F-450 cc. The F-350 cc on the other hand had that same frame, so the f-350 cc and 450 cc frame where identical. The f-550 which only was available as a cc anyway alsways had another, even stronger frame.
Now that there is a boxed frame on the 250/350 i guess the 450 pickup will use that same frame and all the cc's will still use the old c-channel frames.
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