HP is going to be the same but the torque will be at a whopping 450ft/lbs. Also a duel fuel system has also been implemented.


Enjoy....

 

VERY interesting Troy, thanks for posting.

I'm a bit surprised that horsepower isn't increasing any, but that's a pretty healthy torque increase. I think those concerned with valve deposits will be happy to see a low-pressure port fuel injection system that operates in conjunction with the direct injection system.

 

Sounds great...I'm still not sold on the benefits of a 10-speed tranny. We'll see how it performs. Will be interesting to see what kind of MPG improvements we'll see. I'm guessing about 1mpg...

 

I'm guessing a bit more than that. I think the engine improvements alone should be good for more than that. And the transmission will enable lower rear axle ratios to further lower RPMs on the highway.

 

Max efficiency usually has a narrow rpm range so I would bet the 10 speed is all about keeping you there whatever your speed.

I'm disappointed they didn't use compacted iron for the block. It seems like they did an intermediate update for the 3.5L EB for now. Maybe the raptor gets the CGI block and a higher HP rating....(3.5/2.7 * 325hp is 420HP)

 

Should be able to take down Chevy 6.2 now

 

They only said the difference between the Raptor and the F150 is the exhaust and turbos. Everything is the same.

 

Pistons are different. See 4:23.

 

I'd like to know how much extra this will add to the maintenance down the road. 2 sets of injectors may also mess with diagnosing issues. Sounds like port injection is all the time and when extra power is needed the di kicks. Just hope this helps with the short comings of Gen 1 and hopefully did their homework so more issues won't pop up.

 

Thanks for the post. I have been hoping the 10 speed and the second gen 3.5 would both be available in the 2017 F150. Guess this ends the rumors. I'll stop looking at the 2016 now and add my name to the order list. I like everything I heard adout both engine and trans.
Question. Did I hear that the 10 speed was going into all F150s or just available.

 

thanks for the post
extremely intersting

 

That's unfortunate in my opinion. Maybe we'll see CGI in a phase 2 effort down the road.

 

Is it? Where would the benefit lie?

People are tuning their 3.5L engines and making some serious power from them with the stock block. Some have gone over 200,000 miles without issues, so I don't think block durability is in question.

A CGI block would certainly be heavier, and I can't see that doing anything but bad things for efficiency. I don't want more power, but I would enjoy going further on a gallon of gas. As a customer, I wouldn't want to pay more for a CGI block when it's not going to do anything for me.

 

That's a question for Ford with respect to the 2.7 eco. We could both guess at the reasons and probably both be partially wrong.

As far as I'm concerned, I had the chance to buy a 2012 platinum with 3.5L eco. My dealer was in the process of finding the truck when I decided against it and went for the iron block 6.2L. I still think I made the right decision.

I like the concept of the eco but I also want....twin timing chains, an iron block for stability with long periods of boost, I like the offset rods used on the 2.7, and I like port/direct injection. Those were my care-abouts for the gen 2 eco. Instead we got hollow cam shafts and a lighter valve train and port/direct injection. I'm disappointed by what I've read.

 

I think CGI blocks are good for large block engines like a diesel. Ford used it on the 6.7 to make it lighter than the out going 6.4 by a bit. Of course Aluminum heads also contributed to reducing weight some.

Besides Aluminum is a much better metal to disperse heat than iron is in any of those alloys. So I don't think that would be a benefit. Also most every performance engine is built on a cast Aluminum block and they don't see much for issues. Ford GT is in that category and I don't think they went with CGI for it, I think the whole block is cast Aluminum anyway.