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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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The code that is coming up is PO320 and it refers to the camshaft position sensor. Where is the Ignition module? I dob't see it where it should be on the distributor, I have a 96 5.8 which is EEC V and OBD II and MAF
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by mweeps
The code that is coming up is PO320 and it refers to the camshaft position sensor. Where is the Ignition module? I dob't see it where it should be on the distributor, I have a 96 5.8 which is EEC V and OBD II and MAF
I dont know which one of us is wrong here, but in my book this code is as folows
PO320 : Ignition/distributor Engone Speed Input Circut Malfunction. So like i said i dont know whos wrong here but that the definition my book gives for the code. DW
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by DW2455
I dont know which one of us is wrong here, but in my book this code is as folows
PO320 : Ignition/distributor Engone Speed Input Circut Malfunction. So like i said i dont know whos wrong here but that the definition my book gives for the code. DW
I saw that too, what would that be then? PIP circuit in the distributor?
 

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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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as I said I may be wrong but I'd have the TFI modual checked. DW
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 11:52 PM
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Problem here is that I have a 96 5.8 EEC V and the Haynes refers only to EEC IV locations for it. Mine is not on the distributor. It may be remotely located on left inner fender. The Bronco is now 40 miles from me at my parents setting in the driveway after quitting on me after I tried to leave their house today. The Bronco now has quit three times while driving after the hard start problem. Today threw PO320 code again. I am trying to find some info on EEC V somewhere. Took my dad's truck (my old 96 Ranger 4.0 5 spd) and it is having starting issues now too. But it maybe battery related or starter.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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check your driver sinde fender well kinda over under the master cylinder should look kinda like a silver alum heat sink looking thingy. holpe this helps i know this stuff get frustrating somttimes. DW
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by DW2455
I dont know which one of us is wrong here, but in my book this code is as folows
PO320 : Ignition/distributor Engone Speed Input Circut Malfunction. So like i said i dont know whos wrong here but that the definition my book gives for the code. DW
I'm not familiar with this engine but we get these all the time on the 3.0's. Ithink they mean the same (the cam sensor is where the speed input comes from). On the 3.0 it is at the back of the engine, center of intake (just like where the dist would be).It's a black plastic "cap" about the size of a silver dollar about 1" tall with a wire plugged into it.
The problem with ours is that inside this plastic cap is a magnet. For some reason the magnet gives up and it takes the syncronizer out with it. This is a somewhat bigger unit that drops into the block like a dist. It actually looks like a dist that is missing the top half.
If you find this,a word of warning before you rip it out, it has to be timed. Just like a dist.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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i figured it was talking bout something on like a 5.4, i didnt know they put any kinda animals like that on the 302's or 351's ? DW
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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I can't find anything that shows location for the camshaft position sensor. The part is listed for the 96 5.8 but I can't find it or anything about it other than the fact it is available and is part of the EEC V system.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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I have the sort of the same problem... I bought a 1988 XLT bronco back in october last year and it has the 4.9 streight 6, with the 4 speed w/ overdrive tranny. While i was bleeding the clutch slave cyl... the dang thing broke off so i had to pull the tranny off and replace the internal slave (which sucked cause this is a truck that has more rust than the Titanic.... and i am working on it in my back yard in dirt...) when i got the truck back together the engine decided to take a puke.....

It was running fine, but then just stopped.. while at idle... so i replaced all plugs, wires, cap and rotor, but when i went to pull the old cap off the screws broke off in dist.. so i had to pull the entire dist.... to drill out the old screws and retap the holes...that was no problem, but i forgot to lable the darn thing before i pulled it... well i got it back in and it ran for like 30 seconds then died, and would not start, just caughs, like one or two cylinders are firing, but it won't all fire... I am gonna try to find TDC on the 1 cylinder and try that timing, if not i am gonna take the modual on the dist. over to Autozone and have them check it out....

any other ideas?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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intermittent problems like that starting sometimes, sometimes not, and cutting off makes me think of the tfi module.

i almost killed myself trying to figure out what was wrong when i finally swapped out my tfi and it all worked fine.

they are dist or fender mounted, and really heat sensative, but when they go, you get funny starting/running problems.

there was actually a class action lawsuit a while back that was aimed at the tfi module.

i have also heard that the module may test ok, when it is bad. i think mine was 36 bucks, worth buying at autozone/advance and plugging it up and seein if that is it....if not, unplug, wipe clean and return.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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i think that is what i replaced last night.... it is a little grey modual mounted on the dist... i had the old one tested and it failed.... so i got a new one... and nothing... but i don't think i have the timing right.... i tried to find the mark on the harmonic balencer... but the only mark i found was a notch on the back side and not the "A" typical line that goes all the way across the HB, and when i lined it up with the timing marks to "0" the #1 piston was no where NEAR! Top Dead Center I have been trying to get this thing running for a while now, and i am running out of options...
 
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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TFI module passed!!! I bought the PIP sensor for the ditributor. Also found out from the Autozone Manager that it is not a camshaft sensor but a crankshaft sensor(CKP) I was sold and the sales guy most have mispoken. (Actually two guys told me it was camshaft sensor) The receipt shows it as a knock sensor. Try again after work to replace these parts and see what happens and also check the teeth behind the cranshaft that the CKP reads from to make sure nothing has damaged one bouncing up from the road.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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DW2455 thanks for the suggestions, but I have met my deadline on trying to fix it. It goes to a pro tomorrow, he shouldn't have to buy any parts I have a PIP sensor, Crankshaft Position Sensor, and a TFI module (mine passed) just in case. I don't have the time to pull the distributor to replace PIP so off it goes to the shop.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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just for future reference please let me know what you find out. Good Luck!! DW
 
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