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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:18 PM
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What model year V-10?

I looking at the option of replacing the V-10 in my 1997 E350. What is the newest engine that will plug and play with my van chassis?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:15 PM
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2004 for a direct 2 valve replacement. But any V10 will fit into the chassis.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:41 PM
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So you believe any engine from 97 to 2004 will plug in to my electrical system and perform properly?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 12:12 AM
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Personally I would go for a 2000-04 range 2V V10 for the PI heads. The biggest issue I could think of with different years of engines is bolt on accessories sutch as if you have an EGR valve vs the newer Engine w/o but everything can be moved to the new engine if needed.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 06:01 AM
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If you're swapping out the long block only the year is slightly less particular assuming you stay with the 2 valve heads---vans never received the 3 valve Modular Motors.

Because your ECM is year specific along with engine sensors and all engine management wiring all of that stays in place.

If you order the long block from Ford they'll provide the right piece, its up to the installer to use the appropriate sensors for the ECM's strategies and chassis wiring.

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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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If you want complete plug-an-play, get an E-series engine from 1997 through 1999

Oil filter adapter, and I think the oil pan are different between E-series and F-series.

Also, the 97-99 use non-PI heads, and some of the electronics and EGR systems are not the same as the 2000+ F-series.

If you wanted a performance boost, yes, any 2000-2004 V10 from an F-series, up to 2005 Excursion, or 2000+ E-series, if you're willing to swap some parts from the old engine like the oil filter adapter and oil pan/oil pickup. Beware, you'll lose the EGR unless you find a California (not Federal) version from an F-series, and you'll need to get a tune or use the PCM and wiring harness from the donor vehicle.


Hope that helps...
 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 05:52 PM
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Forum members have recommend buying a Motorcraft Remanufactured engine. Sound like a good idea to me. I called my local Ford dealer and got an MSRP + core price. Does anyone on this forum have any connections that could help me source a new engine at a better price?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
If you want complete plug-an-play, get an E-series engine from 1997 through 1999

Oil filter adapter, and I think the oil pan are different between E-series and F-series.

Also, the 97-99 use non-PI heads, and some of the electronics and EGR systems are not the same as the 2000+ F-series.

If you wanted a performance boost, yes, any 2000-2004 V10 from an F-series, up to 2005 Excursion, or 2000+ E-series, if you're willing to swap some parts from the old engine like the oil filter adapter and oil pan/oil pickup. Beware, you'll lose the EGR unless you find a California (not Federal) version from an F-series, and you'll need to get a tune or use the PCM and wiring harness from the donor vehicle.


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My 04 is a obd II California emissions and it doesn't have an egr. Not saying they are the only ones but the only gas super duties I've seen with Egr's are 99's.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike189677
My 04 is a obd II California emissions and it doesn't have an egr. Not saying they are the only ones but the only gas super duties I've seen with Egr's are 99's.
I've seen the same, but it never hurts to make absolutely sure. Using a few examples out of millions of engines makes for an unsure statistical universe.
 
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Keep in mind the E-series never got the 3V engines. So you could find a donor engine from an e-series as late as 14' or so. Swap over any needed accessories from your current engine.(like EGR system)
 
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I'm going with the Motorcraft crate engine. Since the vehicle has 143,000 mile on it I think I should replace a few of the serviceable parts on the engine while I have it out. All the hoses, pulleys, serpentine belt, A/C compressor, condenser, alternator, water pump, radiator, are original parts. I have heard of an engine swap kit that supplies many of those part but don't know where to buy yet.
 
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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Have you check for a Jasper reman? I know a couple of friends that have used them, my mechanics recommend them. There prices are better than ford, they have an excellent warranty and quality is very good!
 
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Old May 1, 2016 | 11:56 PM
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I've looked at there web site but they direct you to a dealer network. Doing this job myself.
 
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Old May 2, 2016 | 01:20 AM
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I've looked at there web site but they direct you to a dealer network. Doing this job myself.
No problem, just heard a lot of good things about them. Good luck in what you decide.
 
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Old May 2, 2016 | 06:24 PM
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I've seen the same, but it never hurts to make absolutely sure. Using a few examples out of millions of engines makes for an unsure statistical universe.
Just to shed some light on this mystery....My 2000 V10 SD has California emissions and an EGR I think. They must be few and far between but it looks like a SD engine could work more closely in the van.

Here is my build data.



Primary Features


</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Build Date:</td><td> 14.01.2000</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Vehicle Line:</td><td> F250/350/450/550 Super Duty</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Body Style:</td><td> Single Cab (2 Door)</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Version:</td><td> 250 Series</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Engine:</td><td> 6.8L SOHC EFI NA V10 Gas</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Transmission:</td><td> E4OD(4R100)</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Drive:</td><td> LHD 4WD (PTD)</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Axle Ratio:</td><td> 3.73</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Emission:</td><td> California Emission Requirements</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Air Conditioning:</td><td> Manual Air Conditioning</td></tr><tr><td width="25%" nowrap="">Paint:</td><td> Oxford White</td></tr></tbody></table>




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