another dt360,466 swap
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The 93 Bluebird bus I am looking at today hoping to get it has the at 545 I was thinking of using that for the Time Bing though it may suck. Thinking it might be ok wih it stok for now I have 3.55 gear
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i have also found a mt643 i dont no much about it yet other than it is lock up and i think it will need a diff bell houseing any ideas id like to stay md and mach for simplicity.i would like to keep auto but thats not a must any ideas?
if it would help you help me give me a list of questions about the truck or whatever will make things easer
if it would help you help me give me a list of questions about the truck or whatever will make things easer
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If it were mine, I'd try to find a 4x4 zf6 for cheap. You'll still have to do tunnel mods but won't have to mess around with divorced case, it'll handle any power you throw at it, adapters to dt360 are available, and it won't be hard to find parts to make it all work or keep it going.
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Definitely the way to fly. A MT643 while it has lockup, still doesn't have overdrive, and in a pickup application its big beefy parts that it needs to handle high GVW just suck power for no reason.
Definitely the way to fly. A MT643 while it has lockup, still doesn't have overdrive, and in a pickup application its big beefy parts that it needs to handle high GVW just suck power for no reason.
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as much as i would love to get a built e4od its just to much $$ for now looking to stay fare for now and upgrade later. i have seen people useing alli 1000 but what would the cost of wireing be. im keeping my eyes open for a zf6
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Spicer 7 is a bear also. Would allow you to run a low axle ration with all those gears....but still, more "one off" than a trans from the big 3.
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While the ZF6 is the strongest manual trans to ever be put in a pickup, the will need help and a dually disk clutch to take the torque from the DT
The spicer 7 speed SUCKS to put it mildly. I drive one every day. Dare i say i would rather have the 6+1 from the international but that would be a toss up
The spicer 7 speed SUCKS to put it mildly. I drive one every day. Dare i say i would rather have the 6+1 from the international but that would be a toss up
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I've never driven a s7...but I know it's strong, how strong? Probably irrelevant considering how strong/cheap/available the zf6 is. Absolutely can't go wrong with a zf6, I use it anytime I have one/it fits. Nv5600 is also a beast, but contrary to wildly popular belief (of those who don't know the designs from one to the next) it isn't as strong as a zf6. I will say, nv5600 will fit without tunnel mods but *you must use one that's never been rebuilt*, 90+% of "rebuild parts" are garbage and drastically reduce the durability. If you find an nv5600 that is a factory used unit, don't think twice to jump on it. Problem is, there are a lot of question marks when assuming one has the factory innards. "cheap" and "nv5600" isn't normally in the same sentence but it is something to keep an eye out for while you search, albeit on the back burner.
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I've never driven a s7...but I know it's strong, how strong? Probably irrelevant considering how strong/cheap/available the zf6 is. Absolutely can't go wrong with a zf6, I use it anytime I have one/it fits. Nv5600 is also a beast, but contrary to wildly popular belief (of those who don't know the designs from one to the next) it isn't as strong as a zf6. I will say, nv5600 will fit without tunnel mods but *you must use one that's never been rebuilt*, 90+% of "rebuild parts" are garbage and drastically reduce the durability. If you find an nv5600 that is a factory used unit, don't think twice to jump on it. Problem is, there are a lot of question marks when assuming one has the factory innards. "cheap" and "nv5600" isn't normally in the same sentence but it is something to keep an eye out for while you search, albeit on the back burner.
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I mean I know about the bellhousing and the starter but what about cooling it and hooking up Clutch Powers the little things and I know I asked about the Allison 1000 but would like some clarification on wiring what I need to buy a harness or would I be able to take it all out of the bus?
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You don't need a dual disc at 3-400 hp. I ran a valair 450 horse organic/feramic single for 3 years before going to dual...it was a great clutch, good launch manners empty and decent launch when hooked to the trailer. Unfortunately, they don't offer that clutch anymore...the clutch companies moved away from singles for obvious reasons: too many claims from idiots treating them like dual discs and doing boosted launches among other idiotic things. I did burnouts, 4x4 launches, and 1/4 mile trips with that clutch, just never slipped it for boost.
There are still great singles on the market for modest power levels, 3-400 hp, just stay away from full ceramic if you want good street manners under takeoff/launch.
The only reason I suggest single is your budget, despite what I've said....dual is always the right way to go when budget permits.
There are still great singles on the market for modest power levels, 3-400 hp, just stay away from full ceramic if you want good street manners under takeoff/launch.
The only reason I suggest single is your budget, despite what I've said....dual is always the right way to go when budget permits.
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You don't need a dual disc at 3-400 hp. I ran a valair 450 horse organic/feramic single for 3 years before going to dual...it was a great clutch, good launch manners empty and decent launch when hooked to the trailer. Unfortunately, they don't offer that clutch anymore...the clutch companies moved away from singles for obvious reasons: too many claims from idiots treating them like dual discs and doing boosted launches among other idiotic things. I did burnouts, 4x4 launches, and 1/4 mile trips with that clutch, just never slipped it for boost.
There are still great singles on the market for modest power levels, 3-400 hp, just stay away from full ceramic if you want good street manners under takeoff/launch.
The only reason I suggest single is your budget, despite what I've said....dual is always the right way to go when budget permits.
There are still great singles on the market for modest power levels, 3-400 hp, just stay away from full ceramic if you want good street manners under takeoff/launch.
The only reason I suggest single is your budget, despite what I've said....dual is always the right way to go when budget permits.
Ok good Transmissions for now until I see what I can find. I do have a question about odd and end stuff as you know I am not trying to Tune anything at first but can you think of anything that has been overlooked and other trends I have a feeling it is a pretty direct drop in and most of what needs to be done I'll just have to see. What about oem stering components?
Sorry for the rant
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Awsome thank you for that great information 89f2urd.
Ok good Transmissions for now until I see what I can find. I do have a question about odd and end stuff as you know I am not trying to Tune anything at first but can you think of anything that has been overlooked and other trends I have a feeling it is a pretty direct drop in and most of what needs to be done I'll just have to see. What about oem stering components?
Sorry for the rant
Ok good Transmissions for now until I see what I can find. I do have a question about odd and end stuff as you know I am not trying to Tune anything at first but can you think of anything that has been overlooked and other trends I have a feeling it is a pretty direct drop in and most of what needs to be done I'll just have to see. What about oem stering components?
Sorry for the rant