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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 03:25 PM
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I have a 1965 Ford F100. It has the inline 6 in it, and I am wanting to put a 289 in it. I already have the 289, and I am having problems locating the motor mounts that I need to do the swap. I am also having a issue finding the rear sump oil pan. I want to keep the factory 3 speed in it. Can anyone head me in the right direction to find these parts? Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 03:40 PM
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Fairly common question. 289 and 302 are physically the same on the outside as far as mounts go. I can't help you with specific parts, though, since I have no small block ford V8 stuff.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-perches.html

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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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I have been searching for a rebuilt engine for my Ford F240 6.0 ltr engine. Can't find it.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 03:58 PM
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Can someone here help me find a rebuilt or low mileage motor ?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 03:58 PM
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I live in Houston and all I find here is junk yards.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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Your truck is a 2wd, yes??

You will need the frame mounts (towers) from a 302 or 351M/400 for your swap and the insulators from a 302/pickup.

The stock front sump pan fits and clears just fine. Ford used a front sump on the 2wd F-series. The truck pan typically holds an extra quart of oil and has a drain plug at the rear of the sump rather than the side, like most cars. Only the 4wd F-series (and Bronco) used a rear sump pan.

For the transmission. You say 3 speed. That is a manual and not a 3 speed automatic, correct??
Is your 289 a 6 bolt ('65 and newer) or a 5 bolt engine ('64 and older)? Some of the very early '65 model year 289's were 5 bolt engines. The 5 or 6 refer to the number of bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine. 5 bolt engines used 5-3/8" bolts while the 6 bolt used 6-7/16" bolts.
The parts you will need are different, depending on which engine you have, but you can get to where you want using all Ford pieces.

Let us know which engine you have and we can go from there.

Good luck.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:02 PM
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I went to a machine shop and got a quote to build my motor but they are charging $4500. What is the fair price. I am desperate to find a low mileage engine.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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Yes my truck is 2wd. Do you know a shop ?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:04 PM
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I just called my buddy. He gave me good news. He told me that there is a shop that builds Ford Powerstroke engines and sells with brand new oil pump and timing installed. Here is their website Ford Power Stroke Diesel engines for Ford F150, Ford F250, Ford F350, Ford F450

They are quoting $3900 for Ford 6.0 ltr. Pretty impressive
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Yes my truck is a 2 wheel drive. The 289 is out of a 1966 Mustang so it is a 6 bolt. So the oil pan that is on there will work? It is a manual transmission.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rickkerny
I have been searching for a rebuilt engine for my Ford F240 6.0 ltr engine. Can't find it.
Hello, and welcome to the site. Sounds like you are in the wrong forum. This one is for the '61-'66 F-series. Your questions should be addressed in one of the forums that deals with newer trucks, or one that deals with the newer Power Strokes.

Please be careful about jumping into a thread and hi-jacking it. The questions I asked were directed to the Original Poster, 65oldie, and were based on his problems / issues and not yours.

Good luck with you search for a new engine.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 65oldie
Yes my truck is a 2 wheel drive. The 289 is out of a 1966 Mustang so it is a 6 bolt. So the oil pan that is on there will work? It is a manual transmission.
OK. I should have asked this as well. What transmission was bolted to your 289?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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I am not for sure. I can get a hold of the guy I bought it from. But for some reason I think it was a automatic. I am getting ready to leave work, so it will be about 45 min, before I can reply back. Thank you for your time.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:43 PM
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Let's say it was an automatic.
You will need everything between the engine and transmission. That includes the block plate, bell housing, flywheel. clutch disc, pressure plate, pilot bushing, throw out fork and bearing and a stick shift starter and anything else I forgot to mention.

The pieces you have off your 6 cylinder (240-300?) will bolt on to the 289. Even the flywheel will bolt on, but DON"T USE THE 6 CYLINDER FLYWHEEL!!!. While it physically fits it has different balance characteristics and you will have monster vibration issues if you use the 6 cylinder flywheel on the 289. If you can find a 289 / 302 flywheel the same diameter as the 6 cylinder one, all is good. Then you would just bolt all your old parts, with the new flywheel, on the 289 and you are done.
For the sake of simplicity and time savings I would suggest looking into the above option, even if it meant spending some money for the correct flywheel.

If not, try to get the whole setup off the same rig. That way you know everything worked together. A setup off a truck would be best but one from a car will work.
The input shaft lengths can differ between car and truck transmissions. I'm not certain of the difference between a small block car input shaft length and a 6 cylinder trans input is. be sure to compare the bell housing depth between your old 6 cylinder bell and what ever new bell you get. If the old bell is deeper than the new one a spacer between the trans and bell will be in order. If the old bell is shallower you may need to have the new bell machined to match.
It is these type of issues why I recommended using your original pieces, save the flywheel.

That's about it. Not too involved, just a couple things to be aware of and watch out for.

Hope this helps.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 08:07 AM
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Sorry I didn't get back to you last night. The wife had plans for me. I appreciate all the help. It was an C4 automatic.
 
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