Brake Proportioning Valve Delete
Adjustable Proportioning Valve Block, Brake Distribution System
Here's a adjustable single valve.
Speedway Purple Proportioning Valve
If it stops raining, I'm still going to try and re-bleed the front brakes while having the rod pulled out to see if it even makes any difference at all. I guess theres a reason why it's called the 'bleeder rod'. The manual states that in order to bleed the brakes properly, you must pull out the bleeder rod and ford has a metering valve bleeder tool. I'm guessing there must be a reason why they put this in the manual and have a tool specifically for it.
As a side note, can anyone direct me on how to adjust the rear drums? I can't seem to find a write up on it.
When I got my '86 the brake light was on, and found it to be the proportion valve.
Common fix was to do about 20 mph (some where disserted and safe) and Slam on the brakes, this "could re-set the valve"
Did not work for me, then saw an ad for some guy in town parting out one. Got the valve for $10 and it works fine.
The one way bleeder valves are your "one person" bleeding system. Loosen about 1/4 turn, go in the cab, slowly press the brake 2-3 times and fluid is pushed out and the check valve will not let air back in. close the valve, add more fluid to the master, and repeat a few timer per cylinder.....
I found the vac systems really to "Suck" (as in garbage"
When I got my '86 the brake light was on, and found it to be the proportion valve.
Common fix was to do about 20 mph (some where disserted and safe) and Slam on the brakes, this "could re-set the valve"
Did not work for me, then saw an ad for some guy in town parting out one. Got the valve for $10 and it works fine.
The one way bleeder valves are your "one person" bleeding system. Loosen about 1/4 turn, go in the cab, slowly press the brake 2-3 times and fluid is pushed out and the check valve will not let air back in. close the valve, add more fluid to the master, and repeat a few timer per cylinder.....
I found the vac systems really to "Suck" (as in garbage"
I read somewhere that if the rear drums are too loose (shoes are further away from the drums), it can actually cause the rears to engage before the fronts. Not sure if that's what I'm experiencing now. Especially since the brake light is still on.
Going to try and have my son-in-law help to bleed all 4 corners to see if I can get this thing going!
I only have an '84 manual as a reference, so if different for '82, somebody please chime in.
From page 12-01-2:
"There are 3 functions of the pressure differential valve: It delays full effectiveness of the front brakes, it proportions pressure to the rear system, and it operates a warning system in case of malfunction."
I wish I could find the rest of my references for exactly how "it delays full effectiveness of the front brakes". I remember it well because I looked into this a couple of years ago after a brake failure. The following may have come from a general textbook and not an official Ford document, but it's still worth considering. It won't hurt to try and it may very well fix your problem.
Per my potentially faulty memory, drum brakes take a split second longer to start clamping down when compared to disc brakes. This is because the drum shoes retract further for required clearance when released. To get all four wheels to apply at the same relative time, one function of the proportioning valve is "delay full effectiveness of the front brakes". It does this by waiting to fully apply the front brakes until sensing the pressure in the rear lines is above a certain threshold, indicating the rear brakes are just starting to work. In a perfect world, the front and rear brakes then start working at the same time.
What does all this mean? Make sure your rear brakes are properly adjusted. Are they self-adjusting? (I think so, but am not positive.) If so, operating the parking brake is what takes up the slack, plus applying the foot brake while in reverse. Self-adjusters can also act up as they age, so I'd definitely check the adjustment of the rear brakes, as you were thinking. Could be the proportioning valve is responding correctly and there's nothing wrong with the valve itself.
When you said your front brakes aren't working, how did you determine this? Is it because the rear wheels lock up and skid? Or did you notice something else?
As far as bleeding the brakes, I FULLY agree with the other comments about a vacuum bleeder. It sorta works, but not completely. Something about the vacuum process seems to entrain tiny air bubbles throughout the brake fluid. Bleeding under pressure is the way to go. After ditching my vacuum bleeder, I went back to pressure bleeding by the Michael Jackson method (a man and a boy) with good results.
Also do it with the rod pulled out.
As for resetting the light, that valve moved to one side because lack of psi on one side. If you know what side it moved to take psi off the other,open bleeder, and hit the pedal using p s I to push it back to center.
Dave - - - -
I only have an '84 manual as a reference, so if different for '82, somebody please chime in.
From page 12-01-2:
"There are 3 functions of the pressure differential valve: It delays full effectiveness of the front brakes, it proportions pressure to the rear system, and it operates a warning system in case of malfunction."
I wish I could find the rest of my references for exactly how "it delays full effectiveness of the front brakes". I remember it well because I looked into this a couple of years ago after a brake failure. The following may have come from a general textbook and not an official Ford document, but it's still worth considering. It won't hurt to try and it may very well fix your problem.
Per my potentially faulty memory, drum brakes take a split second longer to start clamping down when compared to disc brakes. This is because the drum shoes retract further for required clearance when released. To get all four wheels to apply at the same relative time, one function of the proportioning valve is "delay full effectiveness of the front brakes". It does this by waiting to fully apply the front brakes until sensing the pressure in the rear lines is above a certain threshold, indicating the rear brakes are just starting to work. In a perfect world, the front and rear brakes then start working at the same time.
What does all this mean? Make sure your rear brakes are properly adjusted. Are they self-adjusting? (I think so, but am not positive.) If so, operating the parking brake is what takes up the slack, plus applying the foot brake while in reverse. Self-adjusters can also act up as they age, so I'd definitely check the adjustment of the rear brakes, as you were thinking. Could be the proportioning valve is responding correctly and there's nothing wrong with the valve itself.
When you said your front brakes aren't working, how did you determine this? Is it because the rear wheels lock up and skid? Or did you notice something else?
As far as bleeding the brakes, I FULLY agree with the other comments about a vacuum bleeder. It sorta works, but not completely. Something about the vacuum process seems to entrain tiny air bubbles throughout the brake fluid. Bleeding under pressure is the way to go. After ditching my vacuum bleeder, I went back to pressure bleeding by the Michael Jackson method (a man and a boy) with good results.
It was because the rear wheels would lock up and skid, so I was assuming the fronts were not activating. I'm thinking now that I need to adjust them. I'll try the emergency brake thing...
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Reading between the lines about the bleeder pin, it looks to me they are saying if you get a bunch of air in ahead of the proportioning valve, there is a chance you will not be able to overcome the spring and bleed the front brakes. Never had that problem though. Obviously if you are getting fluid out of the front brakes while bleeding, you don't need the "tool".
I tried a set of the check-valve bleeders when I lived in VT and they quickly became rusted lumps. They make stainless versions but they are expensive and a set for all my vehicles would cost more than a Motive bleeder.
Do you normally use the parking brake? Lots of people don't, but setting the parking brake is part of how the rear drum self-adjusters operate. If you don't typically set the parking brake, your rear drums are likely in dire need of adjustment. If so, I'd suggest manually adjusting the drums before trying anything else.
After that, the next step would be to pull the drums for a look-see. I bet you'll find the shoes wet with brake fluid (leaking wheel cylinder) or oil (leaking axle seal). Either one could cause grabbing.
Many manufacturers went with a fluid level sensor for the master cylinder reservoir. Apparently this met the legal requirements and also warned you ahead of time if you had a leak and were about to lose at least one brake system.
Ford went with a different idea. The light only comes on after a loss of pressure in one system, at which point you'd better hope the remaining circuit is up to snuff. If not, at least the bright red light on the dash offers a convenient distraction as you proceed to the crash site.
Once you get the hydraulic issue sorted, meaning all four brakes are clamping down as designed and the light is out, you might find the grabbing problem is fixed, too. If not, then it would be time to look inside the drums.
As a general rule, if I suggest something, wait a few minutes for somebody else to suggest a better course of action.
What do you think of checking the rear brake adjustment before pulling the drums? Is that moot because you're going to want to check for leaks inside the drums anyway?















