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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JimsRebel
You haven't stated which coil you did actually use, but I am pretty sure it wasn't the one off the 82 Bronco.

The resistor reduces the current flow to the DS2 ignition module also, as this is a series circuit. While it might be true that the coil you used could indeed survive without a resistor the DS2 module which is next in line won't.

With the DS2 ignition system it is very importance to use all the correct original parts, don't mix and match parts or you will be walking home often.

Jim
Resistor wire same 1977/89 (there's only one), regardless of what type of module is used.

D7AZ-12250-A .. Resistor Wire-Ignition Coil (Motorcraft DY-213) / Obsolete - Available NOS & from auto parts stores.

49" long / Color coded red with green stripes / 1.30-1.40 ohms resistance / #16 gauge wire.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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as low as it goes 2ohm
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by peka
There is no primary coil resistance, secondary resistance 7.85 in 20k
To read primary resistance, set the DVM on the lowest OHM setting and touch the leads together.
Say it now read .2 ohms... now read the primary resistance... POS to NEG posts. If it reads 1.5 ohms - the starting .2 ohms = 1.3 ohms

If you try this on the 20K setting it will just show zero.

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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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correct at lowest setting it reads nothing, at 200, 2k, 20k all zeros. meter resistance is .001 in lowest setting
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by peka
as low as it goes 2ohm
So with the meter set on the 2 ohm scale and the 2 DVM leads touching the 2 post on the coil it reads.... "nothing"

"nothing" means the display goes blank and there are no numbers on it, or does "nothing" means something else??
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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correct It is a digital meter and nothing happens at all, there are no numbers, nothing, touch the leads it reads .001
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by peka
Do not know of specs it was a new replacement dsII coil, but if there is no primary resistance it is bad?
How did you determine that a DSII coil doesn't need the resistor wire?

Originally Posted by peka
It was determined that with the coil I used, a resistor was not needed and I have the stock resistor wire still in my truck.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 06:23 PM
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Do a search of my name look for thread Ignition help needed on 5-20-15. Franklin2, Gary Lewis, JimsRebel were there with the advice
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by peka
Do a search of my name look for thread Ignition help needed on 5-20-15. Franklin2, Gary Lewis, JimsRebel were there with the advice
That's a pretty presumptuous, ballsy approach, to come here asking for help and telling me/us to go do the work of looking up one of your threads from a year ago when questions are asked in an attempt to help you....
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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well I could have gone thru it all for you here but it is 3 pages long, and I thought that you might get more out of it if you read it. It takes about 15sec to do the search. But I'm sorry for causing so much hardship. I will copy it all and post it here if that's what you want. It was determined by the moderator and others at the time I did not need to add a resistor because the resistor wire was working and my coil was within limits.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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If you want to determine resistance in the harness, ohm between coil+ and module +.
The resistor wire is in the harness between these two points so you can do this with the key out of the ignition.


Do you have continuity between coil- and ground with the ignition off?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 07:12 PM
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I did go back and read the original thread ...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...lp-needed.html

And you did do a correct DS2 swap with all the correct stuff, so I was wrong to just presume you used the wrong coil or had to high of a voltage to the coil... sorry

Based on your current readings, coil primary ohms, compared to what it was when you first installed it, it would appear the the coil primary is burnt OPEN. This is a rare failure and not what I expected.

So take your coil and the DS2 ignition module in the the auto parts store for a free test.

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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 08:34 PM
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Gary includes the test procedures from the EVTM on his website.

Start, Ignition, & Carb Circuits - Gary's Garagemahal
 
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Old Mar 10, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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I tried to determine resistance in the harness, ohm between coil+ and module +. I used red wire coming from firewall to module and I measured it at connector just before module. This was with horseshoe connected, reading was 26 ohms. And coil - to ground with horseshoe connected was .522 ohms
 
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Old Mar 11, 2016 | 02:33 AM
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I'm pretty sure you need to conduct the test with the coil disconnected.
 
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