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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Rear diff oil capacity?

Would appreciate some advice please. In Peru getting some work done and would like to change the oil in the rear diff (LSD)

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr><td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Build Date:</td> <td> 24.06.2000</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Vehicle Line:</td> <td> F250/350/450/550 Super Duty</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Body Style:</td> <td> Super Single Cab</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Version:</td> <td> 350 Series</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Engine:</td> <td> 7.3L Diesel V8 Turbo</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Transmission:</td> <td> 4 Spd Auto Trans EAO A4LE</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Drive:</td> <td> LHD 4WD (PTD) Dually
</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Axle Ratio:</td> <td> 4.10</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Emission:</td> <td> California Emission Requirements</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Air Conditioning:</td> <td> Manual Air Conditioning</td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="nowrap" width="25%">Paint:</td> <td> Oxford White</td></tr></tbody></table>

Info I have says the oil capacity is 3.3 Litres, 6.9 pints -- which seems pretty small given the size of the diff. Is that correct?

The other question is what sort of oil. Friction modifier is a given, but should it be conventional diff oil or synthetic.

Truck has done about 170,000 miles and there is a small amount of metallic particles in the oil, but according to the mechanic, within expectations.

Appreciate any words of wisdom I can get.

Thanks

Tony
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Hi Tony,

I'm not the expert, but what I'm seeing doesn't make sense. Everything I can find on the 2000 model year says the DRW F350 uses the 10.5" Sterling axle. Which doesn't compute, I believe the DRW trucks always got the Dana M-80 axle. Do you have a photo of your differential laying around?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Hang on, Ill pop down the stairs and take a photo.

That info comes from the build data for the VIN



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Ah, I see what you are getting at. My OKA in Australia does have a DANA (70??) axle and it doesn't have a drain plug either. Have to take the plate off to drain it,
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:06 PM
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On one of the cover bolts there should be a tag that specifies what kind of oil you need. The amount sounds about right. The diff only fills about half way
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nojoke327
The amount sounds about right.
Close, but not right.

Thanks Tony, that's very helpful. Definitely NOT a 10.5L Sterling, which makes the literature wrong. Looks like you need 4.0L of 75w-90 synthetic oil. Depending on brand you may need to add ~8 oz of friction modifier, Ford calls theirs XL-3. Some synthetic oils come with friction modifier, so you may not need it.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Close, but not right.

Thanks Tony, that's very helpful. Definitely NOT a 10.5L Sterling, which makes the literature wrong. Looks like you need 4.0L of 75w-90 synthetic oil. Depending on brand you may need to add ~8 oz of friction modifier, Ford calls theirs XL-3. Some synthetic oils come with friction modifier, so you may not need it.
What am I missing here? This is the second time you talked about the 10.5. He doesn't mention anything about a 10.5 just says it's a dialog which should he a D80.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:28 PM
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Thanks both of you. Trouble here is there is no autozone or NAPA so we have to go to a specialist oil man to get oil - and to a filter man to get filters, and a brake man to get pads, and import everything else from the US etc etc and then take it back to the garage to get it installed. Normally I do my own stuff, but this job was two new HD spring packs for the rear, new shocks all round plus new brake pads, rear caliper pistons, rotor machine and front suspension rubbers and bits and pieces and I'm getting too old for this amount of work (and I doubt whether I'd get the spring pack into position by myself anyway given it took two strong young'uns a fair bit of effort to do it.)
 
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What am I missing here? This is the second time you talked about the 10.5. He doesn't mention anything about a 10.5 just says it's a dialog which should he a D80.
Sorry, I should have spelled it out better in my post above. I didn't get much sleep, so I'm half braindead today.

He has the Dana M-80, which is a completely different axle than the Sterling 10.5". The Sterling axle takes 3.3L of fluid, the larger M-80 takes 4.0L. The photo he posted of his rear differential is most certainly the Dana axle.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Sorry, I should have spelled it out better in my post above. I didn't get much sleep, so I'm half braindead today.

He has the Dana M-80, which is a completely different axle than the Sterling 10.5". The Sterling axle takes 3.3L of fluid, the larger M-80 takes 4.0L. The photo he posted of his rear differential is most certainly the Dana axle.
Ok that makes sense. I was going nuts reading the post over and over trying to figure out what I missed.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:35 PM
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What am I missing here? This is the second time you talked about the 10.5. He doesn't mention anything about a 10.5 just says it's a dialog which should he a D80.
Ive got the owners manual which talks about the 250/350 having a 10.5" crown wheel and only the 550 having a Dana - which is why I asked the question here because it didn't seem right. Generic owners manual that doesn't cover all the models.
I guess Tom saw that in some of his literature too
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Ive got the owners manual which talks about the 250/350 having a 10.5" crown wheel and only the 550 having a Dana - which is why I asked the question here because it didn't seem right. Generic owners manual that doesn't cover all the models.
I guess Tom saw that in some of his literature too
The single rear wheel f 2/350 have the 10.5. The dually 350 has a D80
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:09 PM
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Another problem solved. Pity they all aren't so easy -- and cheap -- to sort out.
 
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