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Most people who haven't made it a habit to concern themselves with it would be surprised to see how close or over they are. So long as you're under you're completely okay and shouldn't think twice. The F150 completely blows away the competition on payload specs currently, but the weight adds up very quickly.
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Most people who haven't made it a habit to concern themselves with it would be surprised to see how close or over they are. So long as you're under you're completely okay and shouldn't think twice. The F150 completely blows away the competition on payload specs currently, but the weight adds up very quickly.
Ain't that the truth. With Curb Wt. of 4925 and GVWR of 7000, doesn't leave much, especially when you add in tongue weight. But as you stated, as long as I'm under, all is good. Thanks
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That's more than any half-ton truck I've ever heard of. The only exception to that would be the HD models, which used to be referred to as F250s back when they were created in '97.
I don't concern myself much with GVWR. Staying under GAWR means quite a bit more to me, as those are typically based on actual mechanical limitations.
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But those things are difficult to subtract out, so get lost as rounding errors.
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Doesn't leave much?
That's more than any half-ton truck I've ever heard of. The only exception to that would be the HD models, which used to be referred to as F250s back when they were created in '97.
I don't concern myself much with GVWR. Staying under GAWR means quite a bit more to me, as those are typically based on actual mechanical limitations.
That's more than any half-ton truck I've ever heard of. The only exception to that would be the HD models, which used to be referred to as F250s back when they were created in '97.
I don't concern myself much with GVWR. Staying under GAWR means quite a bit more to me, as those are typically based on actual mechanical limitations.
Yea, I guess what's left over after Curb wt., tongue weight and cargo, is a little better than "not much". I just don't like being to close to max weight allowances, especially when towing is involved. That's why I traded in the Expy and got the 150..went from 9K to 12K...much more room to play with.
Question: Why is the GVWR less than the combined GAWR's, 7250 vs. 7000? I can see why the GAWR is better to watch vs. GVWR. My Rear GAWR is 3800. Minus the 1K tongue wt. that does leave quite a bit for 'other".
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The GAWR is the lowest of the springs, axles, wheels, brakes, wheels, and tires. I've gone over GAWR without issue after addressing the limiting factor, which is usually springs.
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I did a fair amount of research on this a few years ago when I was hauling a 9,000 trailer. I've never understood why the combination of the GAWR doesn't equal the GVWR either. Even if there's a good "engineering" reason, adding that kind of confusion to something that most people won't research at all doesn't help.
I treat the tires, wheels and axle/leaf springs as separate systems. The tires and wheels have their own rating and the axle/leaf springs are the GAWR. But in general, you will have part fatigue when exceeding them, possibly immediate and catastrophic (thinking tires mainly). Side Humor: GM was given a lot of heck years ago when they were shipping under rated tires on their 2500/3500 trucks. Classic.
I think pickuptrucks.com did a big publication on this years ago. GVWR is more about driving experience and longevity of the truck parts. GCWR is what's really important, as that's when safety becomes compromised. GAWR seems to fit in between both of these.
Prop's to the OP for asking the questions. It's amazing how many people see "tows 12,000lbs" on TV and then buy a trailer that weighs 12,000lbs dry. I've got a neighbor that tows his 26' toy hauler trailer with a Raptor already weighed down with way too many accessories.
I treat the tires, wheels and axle/leaf springs as separate systems. The tires and wheels have their own rating and the axle/leaf springs are the GAWR. But in general, you will have part fatigue when exceeding them, possibly immediate and catastrophic (thinking tires mainly). Side Humor: GM was given a lot of heck years ago when they were shipping under rated tires on their 2500/3500 trucks. Classic.
I think pickuptrucks.com did a big publication on this years ago. GVWR is more about driving experience and longevity of the truck parts. GCWR is what's really important, as that's when safety becomes compromised. GAWR seems to fit in between both of these.
Prop's to the OP for asking the questions. It's amazing how many people see "tows 12,000lbs" on TV and then buy a trailer that weighs 12,000lbs dry. I've got a neighbor that tows his 26' toy hauler trailer with a Raptor already weighed down with way too many accessories.
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Too many times I think I overthink stuff like this. Trying to get everything exactly right. Was obsessed with the tongue weight, got that right, now obsessed over GVWR, making sure I don't overload anything.