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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Question 58 panel trans swap

Hi. I have a 58 F100 panel with the original six and three on the tree and want to swap the trans with a Borg Warner T86E-IN 3speed overdrive. It will bolt up to the bell housing ok, but not sure of other problems I may encounter. I was also curious if I need to support the new trans? There is a plate on the trans for a mount (it is a foot or more longer than the original) but no frame crossmsmber to bolt it up to. Will it be a bad idea to fabricate a mount because of frame flex?? Or should I let it hang as the original did? Any thoughts welcome.

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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Russ,
My 59 originally came with a 223 3spd OD. The OD was long gone when I got it. I can see no evidence of it ever having a rear crossmember. I don't think you would need one.
What size input shaft does your T86 have? Also, what number is cast in the OD case? R10? R11
Just curious,
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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bhabben, Not sure what the input shaft size is bit it is smaller in diameter than the original 3 speed I removed. The OD is stamped R10 F1B. My guess is that it was donated from a car not a truck. I am doing my first full frame off restoration with this one so I have lots of time to figure things out. It will be mostly stock with few mods like front disc brakes, the OD trans and a more comfortable modern seat and seat belts. I'm building it for a driver first, show second.

Thanks for the input...... Russ
 
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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58 panel trans swap

My 56 panel has an OD trans, It only uses the bellhousing for a mount. If you need pics let me know.

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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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Thanks bigwin, It didn't seem to need it from my standpoint, but I thought I may as well put it out there for the experts to put there two cents worth in. Pictures are always good for reference if ya gott'em.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 05:51 AM
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hi,
i,ve got a 1960 f100 with a t86e, the trans is bolt on the bell housing. ther's no problem.
i've got a question about you're t86e, do you know where i can find a cluster gear for mine?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Sorry, don't know where to find one. I'll keep my eyes open though and if I locate one I'll let you know.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Jef,

Transmission Exchange Company ( http://www.txchange.com
) sells cluster gears. I recently inquired about parts for the T86 and they do have them. The custor gear was $144. A rebuilt OD transmission was $816 + $200 core. It wasn't stated in the e-mail reply I received from them, but I assume that for the trans only. Not trans + OD.

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