Gary's EVTM - Help Needed
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Gary's EVTM - Help Needed
As some of y'all know I'm documenting many things about these trucks on my web site. (I'm tired of answering the same questions over and over and want to put the information in your hands.)
I've gotten some of the pages scanned in and am dithering on exactly how to present them - which is where you come in. I've created a new Table of Contents with the information arranged by section, and the blue titles of the sections are links to the web page that holds the EVTM pages for that section.
So, I need you to go tell me if that appears to work for you. The issue is that some of the sections have several pages and you have to scroll down to find what you are looking for. An example is Start, Ignition, & Carb Circuits which is 12 pages long. Is that too long? If so, how would you break it up?
Anyway, this is for your benefit, not mine, so I'd really appreciate your checking it out and letting me know if you think you could find what you are looking for. And, by the way, not all of the sections have their pages loaded, so if the section title isn't blue, it isn't there - yet.
I've gotten some of the pages scanned in and am dithering on exactly how to present them - which is where you come in. I've created a new Table of Contents with the information arranged by section, and the blue titles of the sections are links to the web page that holds the EVTM pages for that section.
So, I need you to go tell me if that appears to work for you. The issue is that some of the sections have several pages and you have to scroll down to find what you are looking for. An example is Start, Ignition, & Carb Circuits which is 12 pages long. Is that too long? If so, how would you break it up?
Anyway, this is for your benefit, not mine, so I'd really appreciate your checking it out and letting me know if you think you could find what you are looking for. And, by the way, not all of the sections have their pages loaded, so if the section title isn't blue, it isn't there - yet.
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Although many of us are in "the know" , It may help if you define "EVTM"....for those who may not know. Not to be disrespectful but, any site designed for information access is based upon "eHow" basic inquiries.
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One good aspect of that scribd thing is that it allows the user to zoom in on a diagram pretty easily, that's pretty nice!
But I have no idea how one would easily *print* that diagram (though I haven't tried).
I kinda like this approach, there is no reliance on any third-party services... one can use the mouse wheel to scroll down and see additional pages (unless one's computer is a Fruit in which case they're on their own (which goes doubly if you're using a playing-card-sized device for this kind of research)).... can then click the Back arrrow to get back to where they were and then proceed on.
But I have no idea how one would easily *print* that diagram (though I haven't tried).
I kinda like this approach, there is no reliance on any third-party services... one can use the mouse wheel to scroll down and see additional pages (unless one's computer is a Fruit in which case they're on their own (which goes doubly if you're using a playing-card-sized device for this kind of research)).... can then click the Back arrrow to get back to where they were and then proceed on.
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Here's what the first page says:
The following pages are from Ford's 1981 Electrical, Vacuum, and Troubleshooting Manual - aka EVTM. The pages have been grouped in sections, and you can get to the page for each section by clicking on the blue text, below. (And, if some of the section titles aren't blue that means I haven't included them yet. But intend to do so soon.)
But, Chris knows me well, and whatever we settle on will be well explained. Or, maybe I should say "thoroughly" explained, since it will make sense but maybe won't to you.
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Since you moved this (are we now trying to see how many threads we can start? 
I looked at my 86 EVTM and it is just like your 81 issue. Apparently Ford changed them after 1986 to the newer style.
I will scan it as I have time and send it on.
I looked at my 86 EVTM and it is just like your 81 issue. Apparently Ford changed them after 1986 to the newer style.
I will scan it as I have time and send it on.
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I like the way it's set up and I think it is easy to navigate.
The entire site is pretty cool, I enjoyed your projects on there.
The entire site is pretty cool, I enjoyed your projects on there.
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Chris - With a pdf I can create a link in the ToC to a view of any page, and that view carries with it the zoom I define. So, I had visions of creating a link for "dome light", say, that took you not only to the Lights section but to the page and zoomed in on the dome light. Unfortunately, while I can create the view, Scribd doesn't honor the zoom nor place on the page. 
But, I could put a pdf on each section page via Scribd and at least the link would take you to the right page. But, is that really worth the effort? Would it confuse the user?
Thinlizzy - Thanks. Creating the web site is fun. It is easy.
But, I could put a pdf on each section page via Scribd and at least the link would take you to the right page. But, is that really worth the effort? Would it confuse the user?
Thinlizzy - Thanks. Creating the web site is fun. It is easy.
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EVTM = Electrical, Vacuum, and Troubleshooting Manual
Easy enough....
My question is : Will new users to FTE be able to decipher your documentation or will it be limited to journeyman users?
Easy enough....
My question is : Will new users to FTE be able to decipher your documentation or will it be limited to journeyman users?
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Good question. The terminology I used in the section titles is directly from the EVTM pages, not something I made up. I attempted to help the user's understanding in the words I used after the title. But, if anyone has suggestions please let me know. Those words are easily changed.
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Good question. The terminology I used in the section titles is directly from the EVTM pages, not something I made up. I attempted to help the user's understanding in the words I used after the title. But, if anyone has suggestions please let me know. Those words are easily changed.
My point being, from start to finish, it has to be accessible from the most basic internet inquiry, leading to a viable link/answer to your site. Can a person type a question about a Ford F-Series truck from 1980 to 1986 in Google and have a link to all your hard work appear? No disrespect intended but your site is bigger than you think....much bigger.
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I already owned a car in '64.
Not sure what you mean about the size of the web site, but Google has already found my site - although it doesn't seem to have found the content of the pdf's, which may be a good reason to not use them.
Not sure what you mean about the size of the web site, but Google has already found my site - although it doesn't seem to have found the content of the pdf's, which may be a good reason to not use them.
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The EVTM is well laid out. For me it works like an interactive electronic manual much more than a series of scanned pages. The grouping of pages which relate to sections of the manual is logical.
The resolution of the scans is high (helpful for us multifocal lens users); on the whole it will be a very valuable reference tool.
Thanks for all your hard work and attention to detail!!
The resolution of the scans is high (helpful for us multifocal lens users); on the whole it will be a very valuable reference tool.
Thanks for all your hard work and attention to detail!!
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The EVTM is well laid out. For me it works like an interactive electronic manual much more than a series of scanned pages. The grouping of pages which relate to sections of the manual is logical.
The resolution of the scans is high (helpful for us multifocal lens users); on the whole it will be a very valuable reference tool.
Thanks for all your hard work and attention to detail!!
The resolution of the scans is high (helpful for us multifocal lens users); on the whole it will be a very valuable reference tool.
Thanks for all your hard work and attention to detail!!
