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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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So regarding the WD hitch your'e telling me the the one I found locally for $650 is a good deal and I should ****** it up? Does the Hensley have built in sway control?

I will keep my eyes peeled for gears/axles. I just called and got a quote for both axles either 4.10 or 4.33 for $1880.00

$1800 for both axles complete is a great deal, was over two thousand around me back when I checked it out.

Don't spend money to go from 3.73 to only 4.10, if changing go to at least 4.30s with stock sized tires, taller tire will need deeper gears like my 4.88s for use with my 35".

What hitch have you found locally for $650?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 02:11 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I installed a Hellwig sway bar last year. Made a good deal of improvement towing or just driving around. ...
The rear sway bar should have made a big improvement since it didn't have one at all. The F250 comes with a front and rear which should be a balanced set. Since the rear Helwig bar is larger than the stock F250 bar it makes sense to install the larger front Helwig bar, too. With the Helwig front bar the front end will be more under control and the whole vehicle handling will be better balanced. I put the Helwig front/rear set on our 2002 V10 and it made a huge improvement in handling on winding roads. I put the rear bar on first and after a couple of trips put on the front. The front was not as large an improvement, but quite noticeable.
X2 - Prodigy P3, no braking problems at all with our 7k trailer.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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The RAS brought the rear up aboot 3/4", not much more. I also put 2" lift extended shackles on the front springs. Been keeping the expenses down!! The wheel well measurements (I know some will say not the "proper" meas!!) are aboot 40" in the rear and 39"+ front unloaded, full tank.

I would like to eventually go to 4.56 gears if I can find a way to afford the gear change!! As to towing with the 3.73's, the truck does real well, but you have to keep the rpm's up, shifting down before it starts to drop speed badly. On most passes I have driven with the new trailer and the old, I haven't had much speed differences, but there are a few that have held us to aboot 55 mph.

In Sep we towed 1600 miles into British Columbia, Alberta, and the Icefields and got 8.4 mpg running at an average of 60 mph. Great on the major passes, but not a passing rocket!!!!

We tow with a 1200# Reese DualCam hitch and use a P2 Prodigy. Brakes very well, and so far the hitch worked super. Can't see the $$'s for the other "big gun" hitches.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WE3ZS
$1800 for both axles complete is a great deal, was over two thousand around me back when I checked it out.

Don't spend money to go from 3.73 to only 4.10, if changing go to at least 4.30s with stock sized tires, taller tire will need deeper gears like my 4.88s for use with my 35".

What hitch have you found locally for $650?
Yeah its a good deal but more $$ than I can afford right now.

I found a Hensley Arrow locally for $650 waiting for the guy to call me back so I can go take a look see.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuquala
The RAS brought the rear up aboot 3/4", not much more. I also put 2" lift extended shackles on the front springs. Been keeping the expenses down!! The wheel well measurements (I know some will say not the "proper" meas!!) are aboot 40" in the rear and 39"+ front unloaded, full tank.

I would like to eventually go to 4.56 gears if I can find a way to afford the gear change!! As to towing with the 3.73's, the truck does real well, but you have to keep the rpm's up, shifting down before it starts to drop speed badly. On most passes I have driven with the new trailer and the old, I haven't had much speed differences, but there are a few that have held us to aboot 55 mph.

In Sep we towed 1600 miles into British Columbia, Alberta, and the Icefields and got 8.4 mpg running at an average of 60 mph. Great on the major passes, but not a passing rocket!!!!

We tow with a 1200# Reese DualCam hitch and use a P2 Prodigy. Brakes very well, and so far the hitch worked super. Can't see the $$'s for the other "big gun" hitches.
How does it handle with the shackles up front? I was thinking about doing this to level up the front after the RAS.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 10:39 PM
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Look into the Husky Centerline Hitch.
Built is Sway Prevention.

Should retail around $750.

I use a a cheapy Husky round bar wt dist hitch with friction sway controller.
It does the job on our 27'.

I have used the Centerline on our old toy hauler. Sold it with the trailer.

I own a hitvh shop, even at cost on all the fancy units, I choose the run of the mill round bar unit.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 11:13 PM
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This is what we got after many recommendations for it in the Jayco forums. Equal-i-zer with built in sway control. They retail for double this price at a trailer dealer. Made in America and great customer service too.

Equal-I-zer 10000 lb. 94-6478 - RV Wholesalers Parts Store
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Country_Mouse
This is what we got after many recommendations for it in the Jayco forums. Equal-i-zer with built in sway control. They retail for double this price at a trailer dealer. Made in America and great customer service too.

Equal-I-zer 10000 lb. 94-6478 - RV Wholesalers Parts Store
That's another great hitch. Do yourself a favor and purchase a spare set of the L pins and Clips.

If you lose one they are not easy to find in smaller populated areas.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2015 | 11:39 PM
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Yes A Rodder, we did!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 06:37 AM
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I personally like the Reese Dual Cam. my buddy has the EQ and looking at it they state 4 point sway control. I don`t see it. but either way it is popular and people seem to like it.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 08:42 AM
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I personally like the Reese Dual Cam. my buddy has the EQ and looking at it they state 4 point sway control. I don`t see it. but either way it is popular and people seem to like it.
The 4 points are the friction that each bar socket have at the head (2) and the friction of the bar riding on the L brackets.
They have a newer E2 hitch that is there economy line with only the 2 points at the L brackets.

I really like the Centerline with the Compression cylinders they use, I'm just too cheap to roll one. If I was uncomfortable with towing using the chain / round bar setup, that's what I would upgrade to.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 380tommy

I found a Hensley Arrow locally for $650 waiting for the guy to call me back so I can go take a look see.

If you can get that Hensley for the asking price (or less!) BUY IT!
Even if it needs a little bit of work you will be able to get your money back out of it if you ever sell it. Mine needed 2 new bearings, 4 seals, heavier spring bars and a coat of paint to make it as good as new. The bearings and seals are actually inexpensive trailer axle parts that I bought locally and I sprayed the paint, the new spring bars I bought online. The stingers are pricey so take a tape measure along to see if the one you look at will work with your EX's and TT's hitch measurements. All of the little pins and clips are available from Hensley and they also offer a lifetime warranty on used units too as well as selling refurbished used hitches with warranties.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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Any truth to the fact that they become "unlocked" when the vehicle downshifts?
Had a guy tell me not to buy it because of that?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 01:32 PM
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If you can get that Hensley for the asking price (or less!) BUY IT!
Even if it needs a little bit of work you will be able to get your money back out of it if you ever sell it. Mine needed 2 new bearings, 4 seals, heavier spring bars and a coat of paint to make it as good as new. The bearings and seals are actually inexpensive trailer axle parts that I bought locally and I sprayed the paint, the new spring bars I bought online. The stingers are pricey so take a tape measure along to see if the one you look at will work with your EX's and TT's hitch measurements. All of the little pins and clips are available from Hensley and they also offer a lifetime warranty on used units too as well as selling refurbished used hitches with warranties.

I was one of the suckers that paid full price for my ProPride and put it on my car hauler. I was kicking myself that I paid that much and didn't use it but when I bought the TT there was no question that it was going to be used on it. I had to replace the bearings and clean it up because it had been sitting outside but after that was done and a few hours with the new camper it was attached and ready to go. No sway and good solid weight distribution makes the ProPride an investment. Towing is serious business, sway will roll your truck and can be deadly.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 380tommy
Any truth to the fact that they become "unlocked" when the vehicle downshifts?
Had a guy tell me not to buy it because of that?
If you are talking about the Hensley hitch, then no. There is also some Internet talk about the "Hensley bump" where the hitch will give the tow vehicle a bump as it comes to stop as the hitch pivot points swing to one side as the vehicle stops. If you have you trailer brakes setup to lead the tow vehicle brakes this will never happen. The HA locks to the tow vehicle using two over center latches and if those are "unlocking" under any conditions then the hitch isn't setup properly and the operator should fine some other form of recreation.
If your guy means some other type of "unlocking" then I have no idea what that could be, the hitch doesn't "lock" in any way while in use, it is built around the geometry of fourl pivot points that project tow vehicle to trailer pivot point about 60" forward of the actual trailer hitch/ball connection. The hitch does not pivot on the ball at all, all of the articulation happens via four pivot points/bearing arranged in a trapezoid pattern and all pivot points are free to move at all times, there are no locked positions to "unlock".
I have close to 30k towing miles on my self refurbed HA and it has never misbehaved for us, never any sway, bumps or "unlocking".
 
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