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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 06:37 PM
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Super - I know I have the capped off port for the carbon cannister hose. The carb base and tree are a little different on mine and I'm not sure that port is there but I'll look at it and give some feedback. Many thanks!

Been 30 since I got out as of January. Mainly bounced between Maryland, Augsburg in the FRG, and California - PCSed 9 times in 9 years. We may know someone in common at Campbell, good friend was with the 101 forever. Retired out in I think 2005 as a CSM.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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Happy to help. FTCKY was always an odd place - there were senior NCOs who spent most of their career with the 101st, then in the enlisted ranks it seemed Campbell was just a bus stop between Korea and Germany. I knew guys who were only there 3-4 months before being sent onward. When I got orders for the Berlin Brigade, there were 54 men on the PCS roster. The other 53 all went to Korea. Close call!

Among other escapades, my infantry unit in Berlin was tasked with guarding Rudolf Hess at Spandau Prison for a month. I saw him twice. There was a guard tower on the rear wall just above a small garden he tended. He would come goose-stepping out every morning, 1000 hrs as I recall. I swear, the first time I saw him my heart stopped. The SOB was Hitler's assbuddy, and here he was, all alone, the last **** in captivity. I never believed he offed himself. Spandau was in the British sector, and the Berlin accords stated that for five years after the last inmate died, the prison would remain guarded. It was divided between the Four Powers - USA, Great Britain, France, and the Soviet Union. Everybody took turns, a month at a time. Russia had that five-year thing tacked on as an excuse to bring armed troops into West Berlin.

So the way I heard it, after Hess died, the British razed the prison (it was an red brick POS, not the impenetrable fortress it was reputed to be), ground up the bricks, and dumped it all in the ocean. They wanted to prevent it from becoming a shrine, and they didn't give two toots what the Soviets had to say about it.

Sitting here on my desk is my Spandau Brick, which I stole the last night we were on watch. There were a few inner walls that were crumbling, so I helped myself during the changing of the guard.

Sorry for the sidebar. LOL
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Funny how the old history comes back. The first time I was stationed in Germany, I was literally on the same kaserne that my high-school best friend's father had trained at (they were German immigrants.) Then on my second tour I was stationed in the same town where my father was during the occupation right after the war (he didn't get home till '46) - one very cool afternoon when he came over to visit we drove around for several hours and he reminisced like "that was our barracks, that was our mess hall, some b*stard shot at me there" sort of thing. Was like watching my Dad turn from 65 to 25 in front of me. I was working at the same airfield where Speer took off from for his flight to Scotland.

Sounds like if I can't find an open port for the PCV I can just tee into one of the manifold vacuum lines off the existing tree. Hopefully in the next day or two I can get into it. Much thanks for the help - if you snowbird it one of these days down south, drop me a mail and we can hoist a couple.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2016 | 12:33 PM
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I feel confident the two of you will work this out! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, WilleyJoe.62!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 07:14 PM
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Found that the line from the carbon cannister had something like a piece of steel tupe firmly lodged in the end - maybe that is why no one hooked it up to the carb. Had a spare chunk of gas line a few inches long the right size, hoseclamped it to the metal tube and hooked the other end to the carb.

Made an error on the other hose - turns out it doesn't go to the PCV but when I checked it today, actually runs to the fitting on the back side of the air cleaner. Still don't see any open ports to hook it to, but bought a T fitting today - figure if I hook it into another line drawing manifold vacuum it should work well enough. Unless someone knows where it is supposed to go? It is the fatter of the two lines to that air cleaner doodad and has some sort of disc-shaped valve - I am guessing a check valve of sorts? imbedded in it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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I believe that line would connect to either the oil filler cap or another breather fitting towards the front of the valve cover.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1986F150six
I feel confident the two of you will work this out! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, WilleyJoe.62!
My knowledge of vacuum line diagrams is on par with my knowledge of hieroglyphics. But I mean well.

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Made an error on the other hose - turns out it doesn't go to the PCV but when I checked it today, actually runs to the fitting on the back side of the air cleaner. Still don't see any open ports to hook it to, but bought a T fitting today - figure if I hook it into another line drawing manifold vacuum it should work well enough. Unless someone knows where it is supposed to go? It is the fatter of the two lines to that air cleaner doodad and has some sort of disc-shaped valve - I am guessing a check valve of sorts? imbedded in it.
Here are more perspectives, shots taken over the years ... looks like these were before I refinished the valve cover.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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you and me both, brother...

I have the same problem... especially with trying to sort out which 2-line vacuum doohickey is here and which is the one 3 inches away from it.

In your pic number 1, the yellowish 2 line fitting at the right of the air cleaner is where my mystery line connects. There are two hoses on it - the slightly larger one, which in my case has a small about 1" diameter fitting in it (maybe a check valve of some sort?) is unconnected. The smaller diameter one is, and I need to make sure it doesn't terminate at the same vacuum tree as I am looking to T into. Pretty sure two vacuum lines into the same place won't do much of anything.

For sure the line does not go to the breather - the breather and cap are hooked up with a 1" hose further forward on the air cleaner, just as is pictured in yours.

I swear if I get this sorted out I will do pics and labels to sort out which abbreviation goes to which real-world thingy and post it for the world to see....
 
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Old Mar 3, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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Perhaps this will help ...

 
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couldn't have said it better myself
 
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Old Mar 7, 2016 | 02:23 PM
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Things I AM learning - a big important looking item on the diagram may be one of those little one-inch in-line disc valves. Plus at least on an AC equipped '78, the '79 diagram has it's locations totally FUBARed.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 09:03 AM
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SOLVED!!! Sat out my FLAPS (Friendly Local Auto Parts Store) parking lot Saturday for two hours and replaced every damn vacuum line (they say I set a record for vacuum line sales... I got on the reinforced emissions lines and said 'this is what everything is gonna be! Stuff is a bit pricey... but should last a really long time.) 3/16 line alone took 16 feet. But while messing around with it I found a well camouflaged port capped off at the carb base... the outlet on the in-line valve was a bit larger than the port,
but not so much that a little force couldn't solve it. So everything is hooked up with NEW lines - I'd love to tell you the old girl perked right up and laid rubber in second for 50 feet, but this is a 300 and a C6 automatic...

One thing I will say - if you decide to do this, take a knife. After almost 40 years, those hoses will come off a LOT easier if you slit the end at the barb they go onto.
I will try to do a full pictorial - I am thinking a schematic that actually looks like what is under the hood might be worth while.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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HoustonDave,


I will be replacing all my vacuum lines in a few days here on account of a bunch of them cracking while I was doing my valve cover gasket. They were all the old plastic lines. Quick question for you, Did you go with rubber lines or plastic? What size lines are required? My carbs off at a buddies getting ultra sonic cleaned so I can't just go the store and swap out lines one by one. I would like to have a good stock pile to swap them before I get the carb back. Plus have a good bit of extra just in case.


Thanks Much
 
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 07:14 PM
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I'd love to help and actually found my receipt - unfortunately the guy rang it all up a) as fuel hose and b) without sizes. I think the big hitter was 5/32", and I used 18 feet of it. The hose to the vacuum booster I believe was 1/2" and I bought 3 feet. Assuming size and price are correlated, after 5/32 I bought 6 feet of the next size, 7 feet of the next, and 3 feet of the next... if I was to guess I would think maybe that was 1/4", 5/16, and 3/8"? Sorry... without actually pulling them off and measuring that is the best I have. I bought a little extra because he was guesstimating lengths,
and cutting to the foot, but my excess was maybe a foot or so worth at most.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:55 AM
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Awesome. Thanks HD. Did you use the OEM style lines or I've heard of guys switching the plastic for rubber?
 
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