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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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88 460 wire/ solenoid problem

Alright I've been on here long enough to know the solenoid are junk. But I've tried new and old ones new alternator, idk how many starters and solenoids. But it always happens after I drive it a while. Started up this morning fine. Drove thirty min. To home. Took shower went back out tried starting solenoid stuck. So what could be heating up. To cause the hard start. Only thing I know that is wrong with the truck is pan oil and rear man. Small leak. I'm pretty sure it was rewired cause of fire at the master cylinder. But I don't see any open wires or wires close to something hot.
 
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I assume you tried a Ford Motorcraft solenoid?? Did you replace the battery cables from the battery to the solenoid, and the solenoid to the starter, no matter what they look like?

I suppose as a last resort you could get a 1992 or newer starter and wire it up as such.(I think it will bolt on and work) I saw a slick way to do this somewhere. Simply put the cable that goes to the starter on the same solenoid bolt with all the other cables. Then on the other solenoid bolt run a small wire, about 14 gauge, down to the small terminal on the 1992 or newer starter. I think this will work.
 
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Yes I've replaced them. Is the 92 starter stronger. Or will I be blowing both solenoid up
 
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Yes I've replaced them. Is the 92 starter stronger. Or will I be blowing both solenoid up
The deal with the 1992 or newer starter is the way it is wired up. All that goes through the solenoid is the signal to engage the stater.

On the 1991 and older starters the entire voltage to run the starter goes through the solenoid.
 
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Yea found a good article on it thanks. I think I run positive to solenoid. Then positive solenoid to positive solenoid. And negative solenoid to negative solenoid. Can I just hook starter solenoid to positive terminal since there ain't room on fender solenoid. Now that's a tongue twister.
 
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Yea found a good article on it thanks. I think I run positive to solenoid. Then positive solenoid to positive solenoid. And negative solenoid to negative solenoid. Can I just hook starter solenoid to positive terminal since there ain't room on fender solenoid. Now that's a tongue twister.
I'm not sure what you mean by negative and positive solenoid. The way Ford did it on the 1992 and newer trucks, they split the cable right where it comes off the positive battery terminal. They ran the cable to the fender mounted solenoid and also to the starter. That's what needs to be done if using a 1992 or newer starter.

The way I explained in the last paragraph under #2 is the simple way to do this, but if there isn't room on the solenoid bolt. You could buy the actual cable or just improvise. Keep in mind you need a good connection to both the starter and the fender mounted solenoid.
 
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