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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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Jag IFS conversion anyone?

Anyone done or got any links or info on the Jag IFS conversion as I plan to ut on in a F5/F6 in the near future and am interested to see how they set up the steering in the COE.

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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Last Triumph
Anyone done or got any links or info on the Jag IFS conversion as I plan to ut on in a F5/F6 in the near future and am interested to see how they set up the steering in the COE.

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What year is your Coe I am interested in seeing that as well.
 
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Originally Posted by Last Triumph
Anyone done or got any links or info on the Jag IFS conversion as I plan to ut on in a F5/F6 in the near future and am interested to see how they set up the steering in the COE.

Thanks in advance.
That's an awful lot of weight to put on a Jag suspension, not to mention lowering the truck by about 7"+
 
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 05:03 PM
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XJ6 is close to a 4000 pound car, is a big F series a whole lot heavier?
 
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Originally Posted by pweng1
What year is your Coe I am interested in seeing that as well.
I'm currently looking fro one - '48 - '52 please
 
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 05:40 PM
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That's an awful lot of weight to put on a Jag suspension, not to mention lowering the truck by about 7"+
7" is exactly the amount I need to lower it by to get in in may garage, plus I plan on using air bags to make it adjustable.

Once you remove the 7 (in spare) huge heavy wheels and tyres and replace with light weight retro smoothie (or similar) alloys (x4) as well as the huge weight you save from removing the leaf springs and replacing the front and rear axles, you can get the basis chassis cab down to about 4,000lbs easy.

The Jag IFS is also a very strong unit and is well over engineered. It also wouldn't take much to strengthen one a little if the need was felt.
 
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Originally Posted by drptop70ss
XJ6 is close to a 4000 pound car, is a big F series a whole lot heavier?
My F5 empty is 5,100# with the aluminum wheels
 
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Originally Posted by Last Triumph
7" is exactly the amount I need to lower it by to get in in may garage, plus I plan on using air bags to make it adjustable.

Once you remove the 7 (in spare) huge heavy wheels and tyres and replace with light weight retro smoothie (or similar) alloys (x4) as well as the huge weight you save from removing the leaf springs and replacing the front and rear axles, you can get the basis chassis cab down to about 4,000lbs easy.

The Jag IFS is also a very strong unit and is well over engineered. It also wouldn't take much to strengthen one a little if the need was felt.
Well, I saw in another post where your planning to put an 8.8 out of Mustang under the back, and then use this as a racer car hauler?
I'm not an engineer, but that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Even if you got it down to 4,000#, put a race car on the back,even a small one along with your tools and your looking at about 7,000#. That is really stretching any kind of limits for the jag, not to mention the 8.8 mustang rear.
 
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Well, I saw in another post where your planning to put an 8.8 out of Mustang under the back, and then use this as a racer car hauler?
I'm not an engineer, but that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Even if you got it down to 4,000#, put a race car on the back,even a small one along with your tools and your looking at about 7,000#. That is really stretching any kind of limits for the jag, not to mention the 8.8 mustang rear.
You may well be correct. This is the beauty of research I guess. My experience lies with VW's a old 'vettes - this will be my first truck / hauler / hot rod build.

What would you suggest?

Would 9" rear do the trick out back?

What are the options up front. I really do need to get it about 7" lower (even if just to get it in my garage to then raise up again on air to drive)

I really want to move away from the leaf springs.

Thanks in advance.

For the record, the race car is a 1,600 lbs tube frame drag bug so not heavy at all, but I take your point.
 
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Interesting document....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_axle_weight_rating

The Ford 8.8 is 200lbs higher capacity than the 9"!!!

3,800 lbs.... cutting it fine maybe?

What is the limiting factor in their strength? Could they be strengthened with upper and lower gussets running along the axle tubes and into the centre section?

The problem is that here in the UK, Dana 50's etc aren't available - we have a tiny supply of this sort of stuff as it simply wasn't available over here.
 
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If you're anything like we were when we raced, we still had about 1000# in tools and spare parts on the truck. I surely wouldn't haul a race car on the back of a truck with single wheels.
 
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Originally Posted by harleymsn
If you're anything like we were when we raced, we still had about 1000# in tools and spare parts on the truck. I surely wouldn't haul a race car on the back of a truck with single wheels.
Correct load rated wheels and tyres that are more than up to the job can be sourced.

The axles have me intrigued though...
 
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Originally Posted by Last Triumph
Correct load rated wheels and tyres that are more than up to the job can be sourced.

The axles have me intrigued though...
Your plan for the axles would be fine if you were using to tow a trailer with your stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by harleymsn
Your plan for the axles would be fine if you were using to tow a trailer with your stuff.
I might look at a Dana 60 from a Land Lover as I won't be towing - I'll be carrying so the GVW will be approx 7,750 lbs and the D60 is pretty available over here from today's research.

I'm more and more considering running the stock front axle as it is and maybe substituting the big, heavy leaf packs for light weight composite mono springs and air bags to assist and control height.

Any good outlets for composite springs like on a Corvette C4 but for this application?
 
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Corp 14 bolt,Dana 60 or a sterling 10.25/10.50 is what I'd want. Problem will be width
 
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