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Not a brand hater by any means, but I wanted to share this with everyone. I posted this some time ago on another site, to try to get help, or at least find another owner whom had problems similar to mine. I have since traded this pile-o-crap in, but Forest River still produces this model and I just wanted others to know.
This could be just about any travel trailer sold by any manufacturer. Many owners just don't notice things till the walls fall off. If you are looking for an occupation with job security, working on RVs is it! The construction has not improved (and probably has gotten worse) over the last forty years.
To make things even better for owners, you not longer have to test for certification, you can sign up online, and the continuing education requirement has just been cut in half. If you thought service was bad before, you ain't seen nothing yet. As I noted in RV Business, pretty soon to be certified all you will have to do is know how to write your name and you can master certify as soon as you are able to name five RV appliances. Don't know why RV Business refused to publish my comment.
Hammer, I moved your post (and Steve's response) to it's own thread since it really didn't have anything to do with helping others negotiate a deal when purchasing their next RV.
Not at all, Steve! I know we all appreciate your posts, help, and insight. And your response to Hammers post was congruent, I just wanted to give Hammer his own thread since it really didn't add to the purpose of the "buying tips" thread.
I just read the 4 task sign off sheets for registered technican. Talking about how to tell you do something. At least to be master certified you still need some experience. I did not look at the registered test but I am sure I could pass it. I guess someone with no mechanical knowledge or experience would have a hard time. I have heard that the ASE certifications have changed also.
The initial test, which I took years ago was fairly demanding, but it gradually got more and more watered down. The basic problem is 80% certified techs were failing to recertify and instead of trying to discover why that was, the industry simply decided to find a easy low-cost way to get more folks certified.
The only thing I have to say about experience is at least it gives me the opportunity to make the same mistake repetitively!
The initial test, which I took years ago was fairly demanding, but it gradually got more and more watered down. The basic problem is 80% certified techs were failing to recertify and instead of trying to discover why that was, the industry simply decided to find a easy low-cost way to get more folks certified.
The only thing I have to say about experience is at least it gives me the opportunity to make the same mistake repetitively!
Steve
Typical approach. People can't pass the test, change the test. An auto tech could in theory be Master certified right out of school, if the scool was long enough. In fact when I was teaching automotive we would encourage out student to take the ASE test for whatever area they had just finished. That way we they graduated they had the written done and just need the 18 months additional expericance
When I bought my WDH from a local dealer, they assembled it, and said its ready to go. I asked if they greased it. No, they say, you don't need to. So I say, well why do they come with grease nipples. Oh, well look at that he says, turns and asks the young guy sitting on a bench with iphone glued to his hand. Wheres the grease gun? Young guy says (no word of a lie) Whats a grease gun? (yes really. me making mental notes to never come here for any type of service).
So I get home and proceed to recheck all the nuts and bolts to make sure they didn't put it together by hand lol
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