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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 07:45 AM
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conversion from manual to automatic

Hi everybody. I apologize for my bad English, I come from Denmark.

directly to my problem .. my ford is born with 5 speed mauel gearbox, which I would like to have converted to a e40d automatic gearbox.

Does anyone know how i should do this, or who knows about it?
It is maybe a big project, but i want to do it and offer what it cost..

Thanks for your time.

Kind Regards Dan
 
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Dan, many have done it but most of the conversions have been auto to manual. Do a search, there are a lot of threads on the subject. Welcome to the forum.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 09:45 AM
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After going from auto to manual, it seems like going the other way would be much more difficult.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 11:21 AM
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I suppose it's just the opposite of what we did...

The auto has a little more hardware that goes along with it.

This list is coming from memory so it might not be complete but you'll need:
Trans
Wiring harness
Pedal assembly?
Shifter
Shift cable
Crank spacer
Trans cooler
Floor pan

And depending on years
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Aluminum spacer at motor

Do the factory manual radiators have the provision for the trans cooler?

It's not a terrible job.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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I'd recommend if you do the swap install a robust E4OD as the stock one is inherently weak. BTS or John Woods E4OD's are excellent products.

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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FI460
I suppose it's just the opposite of what we did...

The auto has a little more hardware that goes along with it.

This list is coming from memory so it might not be complete but you'll need:
Trans
Wiring harness
Pedal assembly?
Shifter
Shift cable
Crank spacer
Trans cooler
Floor pan

And depending on years
Cross member
Aluminum spacer at motor

Do the factory manual radiators have the provision for the trans cooler?

It's not a terrible job.
Add to that the PCM . Its a good bit of work .
 
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 11:32 PM
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If you want to consider replacing the truck, it should be much easier to find an automatic than a manual, anyway. And there's probably somebody out there that wants to buy a manual truck just like yours.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
If you want to consider replacing the truck, it should be much easier to find an automatic than a manual, anyway. And there's probably somebody out there that wants to buy a manual truck just like yours.
Maybe. I have no real experience on the matter but I suspect manuals are more popular in the rest of the world...
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:04 AM
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Thanks for all your answers

Is it possible that I can get in touch with someone who can provide all the necessary parts? I am willing to pay what it costs.

I don't want to sell the truck, because it has just been completely renovated and painted So i just go the hard way..

/Dan
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 07:08 AM
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This is the truck i want to convert from manuel to auto
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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Hey Joseph, who was the guy with the white pickup you got your stuff from? He used to put kits together. I dont know if he's still willing to do it.

If nobody comes up with his name I'll dig it up after work.

Great looking truck engelhardt!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FI460
Hey Joseph, who was the guy with the white pickup you got your stuff from? He used to put kits together.
His username here is plgebbia. His last activity here is September of last year, though. Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Profile: plgebbia

His business is Ian's Truck Shop. Ian's Truck Shop - Home

I don't know if he's still putting transmission swap kits together or not. Also, I gather that he is quite a busy fellow these days. I picked up my parts in person. I can't even fathom how much your shipping would cost.

And I understand perfectly about not wanting to part with your truck. People tell me that I ought to just buy a new truck all of the time. I tell them, "Not a chance!"

I recommend that you find a donor truck. If I had a donor truck when I did my swap, it would have been twice as easy. It gives you the opportunity to see how everything should be put together. If there's anything that I can do to help you in this endeavor, let me know. I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckHammer
I recommend that you find a donor truck. If I had a donor truck when I did my swap, it would have been twice as easy. It gives you the opportunity to see how everything should be put together. If there's anything that I can do to help you in this endeavor, let me know. I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor.
THIS ^^

I'm not sure what the junkyards are like where you are but if it's an option it would be hugely helpful. There are some well documented swaps with pictures on this website but it's still not the same as seeing where the parts go as they come off a donor vehicle.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 06:51 AM
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The IDM and ECM will have to be changed. What I have noticed is that manuals will hold the fuel up briefly when letting out of the pedal to shift. The automatics do not do this.

Best bet is to buy a truck out of the junk yard so you have everything you need. Harness's are going to be different as well.

I went the other way so I was able to keep my ECM and IDM. All I had to do was trick the truck into thinking it was always in neutral. Unfortunately you cant just trick the computer.

I dont know the extensive dictation between them, but the IDM's are not all the same, and can not not be used interchangeably. The price tag on a new in is about 800 give or take.

I do sympathize with you though; I bought a 2x4 auto and refuse to part with it, so I converted it over manual, and am still working on the 4x4 conversion though.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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The IDM and ECM will have to be changed. What I have noticed is that manuals will hold the fuel up briefly when letting out of the pedal to shift. The automatics do not do this.

Best bet is to buy a truck out of the junk yard so you have everything you need. Harness's are going to be different as well.

I went the other way so I was able to keep my ECM and IDM. All I had to do was trick the truck into thinking it was always in neutral. Unfortunately you cant just trick the computer.

I dont know the extensive dictation between them, but the IDM's are not all the same, and can not not be used interchangeably. The price tag on a new in is about 800 give or take.

I do sympathize with you though; I bought a 2x4 auto and refuse to part with it, so I converted it over manual, and am still working on the 4x4 conversion though.
I don't see the IDM being an issue here. They are all interchangeable all the way to 2003. The only difference is the voltage. It shouldn't matter auto or manual.
 
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