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THANKS FORD
The Feds want speed limiters and surveillance devices installed in every car, truck and bus
Glad you are so willing to be a part of. You can bet I will never buy a Ford car or truck.
Glad you are so willing to be a part of. You can bet I will never buy a Ford car or truck.
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They have to put on EDRs -- it's required.
The only part that's at all good is that prior to the law, cops were trying to use whatever data system a vehicle happened to have. So, if you paid the big bucks for Onstar, your vehicle could testify against you.
This was bad because as far as I know, no agency had ever tested the reliability of these systems . And since they were 'convenience systems', I'm not sure that that the manufacturer's tests were extremely rigorous.
This wasn't allowed in all states which made it quite a muddle.
Just to cheer you up further, they've done tests in New York City, and found that they're activating EZ Pass tollway transponders all over the place. The claim is that it's for traffic management, and that they don't keep identities -- uh huh.
hj
The only part that's at all good is that prior to the law, cops were trying to use whatever data system a vehicle happened to have. So, if you paid the big bucks for Onstar, your vehicle could testify against you.
This was bad because as far as I know, no agency had ever tested the reliability of these systems . And since they were 'convenience systems', I'm not sure that that the manufacturer's tests were extremely rigorous.
This wasn't allowed in all states which made it quite a muddle.
Just to cheer you up further, they've done tests in New York City, and found that they're activating EZ Pass tollway transponders all over the place. The claim is that it's for traffic management, and that they don't keep identities -- uh huh.
hj
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I'm sure they aren't, but they are the first ones mentioned.
If we all refused to buy vehicles with that crap. It would end in an hour. But I'm most likely the only one that thinks it an personal invasion. I do know my insurance agent's gals that write my auto insurance policies will tell you in a heart beat you don't want that chip that tracks you. But I live in a redneck area where people don't brain wash as easy.
If we all refused to buy vehicles with that crap. It would end in an hour. But I'm most likely the only one that thinks it an personal invasion. I do know my insurance agent's gals that write my auto insurance policies will tell you in a heart beat you don't want that chip that tracks you. But I live in a redneck area where people don't brain wash as easy.
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The EDR and chip work both ways. My kids got hit by a drunk hit and run driver. He was easily found, but many are not. My kids were unhurt, but many are not. I like the loud pedal and I like to wander about. But the truth is, with cameras everywhere, you aren't likely to go anywhere unnoticed anymore anyway. If this stuff can be deemed reliable and usable, maybe some dirt bags will be collared, and maybe some others will live to see old age.
The roads are public property. You can't have an expectation of complete privacy there chips/edr/camera or not.
jmo, ymmv
The roads are public property. You can't have an expectation of complete privacy there chips/edr/camera or not.
jmo, ymmv
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