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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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Common problem with age?


1995 F-150 XLT Short Bed, Black / Silver two tone Trailer Towing with 3.55's with a tall black capper.
180K and owned by me since 1998 with 16K, two owners.
5.0l stock innards with K&N, Tricked Jacob's Mileage Master ignition system incorporating the coil trigger from an older Jacob's unit so I have two complete ignition systems by swapping the coil wire location.
Shorty headers through the original Cat to a stainless catback exhaust. All ECU sensors are new as are water pump, thermostat and 14 lbs cap , 130 amp alt, MSD Super Conductor Ign wires with heat boots. 14 btdc and Motorcraft copper cores one step colder and side gapped to .55 . '98 explorer 4 hole injectors. I have taken this rig from 12 ->14 mpg to 18 city and 22+ highway.

Diagnosing a noise:

Pulling away from a stop you hear/feel a short groan popping sound which is low frequency and repeatable rolling on and off the throttle. brake application doesn't reproduce it.

I originally thought a combo of tired motor mounts and transmission cross member mount. They look structurally intact but will get changed soon.

A local shop mechanic that grew up working in a Ford Dealership shop thinks that large rivets mounting the cross member to the frame rails (or someplace) have worked loose, he said it was typical at this age.

My question being, if this does pan out to be the case, doesn't it make sense to support the frame with the weight off of the suspension then just weld up these areas secured by the rivets?

TIA
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:24 AM
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I'd be inclined to say "tired" mounts first, then the frame but that would depend on what sort of work the truck has been doing (loading, terrain, torque (flex), etc) --- the frames on these trucks are relatively "thin" compared to the F-250/350s
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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90% + highway and DD with occasional (rare) 3000 lbs +or- towing. Off road to fish and hunt or going parking with a local hooker.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 09:19 AM
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I assume you have already ruled out u-joints?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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Not entirely, anything is a possible. That has a ring to it thought. This morning when the whole truck was cold it does nothing. A couple of miles down the road it starts and I don't mean gradually. As if colder thick grease halts the slop and as soon as it warms up it starts talking to me. Good idea, thanks!
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Another vote for driveshaft u-joints, you will need to disconnect it to really see/feel if any of them are bad.. though if you go that far you may as well replace them as they aren't expensive.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Never mind...
 
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Old Jun 18, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 24 Carat
My question being, if this does pan out to be the case, doesn't it make sense to support the frame with the weight off of the suspension then just weld up these areas secured by the rivets?

TIA
If it is the rivets, I'm inclined to think it would be better to drill them out (carefully) and put in some grade 8 bolts, rather than welding on the frame.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Never mind here too. LOL! My bad.
 
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OK feel free to disregard, but doesn't a 4x4 have a 2 piece rear shaft too? If so I think 180K carrier bearing might need a look at as well as the 3 U-joints.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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You can check u joints without removing the driveshaft, but the drivetrain has to be unloaded. I.e. in neutral with the wheels chocked.
 
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