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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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T98 trans oil?

What type lube goes in the (1951) T98 4 speed? Is 90wt gear oil ok?
And how much lube required to fill it?

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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 10:59 AM
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Scott, I didn't find the weight, but it holds 8 pts when dry.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 11:16 AM
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OK, the only thing I could find was a post from 10 years ago that said the service manual for a 1960 F100 with T98 calls for 50wt.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...il-to-use.html
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Thanks Joe, I was thinking 50wt, but can't find any locally. Maybe mix 90 and 30wt?

It's a truck that only gets used on the farm in summer, so it shouldn't be too critical...
 
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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The usual oil for Ford trannies back then was straight weight 140, GL-1. That's hard to come by, StaLube makes it and NAPA's can order it (p/n SL 24228 (qt) SL 24238 (gal) )but it's pricey. You can also buy off Amazon.

Lots and lots of debate on many forums over whether commonly available GL-5 gear oils are OK for use with brass synchros. I just had to refill my trans so I did a lot of web searching. I believe the story is, most GL-5 used to contain "active sulphates" that would eat brass when hot. GL-4 didn't allow use of active sulphates, so it was safe. But in modern times, almost all the Brand Name oil co.'s have switched to inactive sulphates for their GL-5, and many say right on the bottle they are safe for copper.

I ended up going with SuperTech 85w140 from WallyWorld, which has the statement about being safe for copper in manual trannies. I am pretty sure that's what I was running in my trans for the last 8 years, and when I had it apart, the brass looked good (active sulphates stain the brass to a blackish color).

YMMV...


 
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Old Jun 20, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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This is from the Nowak Conversions -The Novak Guide to the Borg-Warner T98 Transmission website:

 
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The Novak guide is primarily for the units Jeep used... Even Ford changed to 80W 90 later on in the 50's . But in the early units 140W summer is what is and was called for. As I recall there was another individual with an 48 or 49 1.5 ton having the same issues and filling 140W resolved them. I think these early units had more clearance just due to manufacturing tolerances. I believe if you replace the synchros and rebuild to current specs with modern synchros then 80W/90 is the way to go.
 
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