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Old May 7, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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DEF Fault Msg: 3rd time in <2 months!

Got a DEF Fault / speed limited to 50MPH in 50 miles warning 7 weeks ago; DEF level was fine. I was scheduled for the reflash so the diesel mechanic thought the update may fix it; it did. For 3 weeks. Then I got it again; diesel tech replaced a NOX sensor 3 weeks ago. Last night my CIL came on (no other message) for about 5 miles and then a DEF System Fault Speed Limited to 50mph Upon Restart. Sure enough it's limited to 50mph. Not happy--this is the third day of Leave (I'm military) I've had to take for repairs o this truck. It's a 2013 with 20,992.6 miles. Any thoughts???
 
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Old May 7, 2015 | 10:24 AM
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I think they need to investigate further than a computer flash.
 
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Old May 7, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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I would assume so--the first fault occurred before the recall flash
 
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Old May 7, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Icthus in AK
Got a DEF Fault / speed limited to 50MPH in 50 miles warning 7 weeks ago; DEF level was fine. I was scheduled for the reflash so the diesel mechanic thought the update may fix it; it did. For 3 weeks. Then I got it again; diesel tech replaced a NOX sensor 3 weeks ago. Last night my CIL came on (no other message) for about 5 miles and then a DEF System Fault Speed Limited to 50mph Upon Restart. Sure enough it's limited to 50mph...
Hi Icthus in AK,

First of all, thank you for your service! I want to help by looping in your regional customer service manager. They'll work with your dealership on getting these DEF faults resolved. To get the ball rolling, PM me your full name, best daytime phone number, VIN, current mileage, and servicing dealership.

Crystal
 
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Old May 7, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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Pvt. msg sent; thanks, Crystal!
 
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Old May 7, 2015 | 03:04 PM
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...and of course their one diesel tech isn't in until Monday. I want to love this truck but it's getting more difficult.
 
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Old May 8, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Icthus in AK
Pvt. msg sent; thanks, Crystal!
Got it and sent you a reply, Icthus in AK. Check out your inbox for my message; I'll get things moving on this.

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Old May 11, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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UPDATE:
Dealer in Anchorage reports that they think there's contamination in the DEF tank and therefore it's not warranty-covered and it'll be, oh... about $3k to repair. Their reputation is horrible and an acquaintance relayed he had the exact experience with the dealer 2 weeks ago. He paid to have his truck towed to a dealer 40 miles away who found the real cause and repaired the truck under warranty. So I'm having my truck towed to the other dealer tomorrow morning.
 
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Old May 12, 2015 | 05:10 AM
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If there truly is contamination then an insurance claim can help cover some of the cause.


I doubt that to be the issue.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by [B
Icthus in AK[/B];15347042]UPDATE:
Dealer in Anchorage reports that they think there's contamination in the DEF tank and therefore it's not warranty-covered and it'll be, oh... about $3k to repair. Their reputation is horrible and an acquaintance relayed he had the exact experience with the dealer 2 weeks ago. He paid to have his truck towed to a dealer 40 miles away who found the real cause and repaired the truck under warranty. So I'm having my truck towed to the other dealer tomorrow morning.

Icthus in AK
Anyupdate on how the other dealer made out fixin your truck?


I'm havng issues with my 2013 F-250 also...


I hope your rollin down the road smiling again!


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If you are coming up with contaiminated DEF then drain it out and put some fresh stuff in and drive it about 20-30 miles and it may clear itself.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Anyupdate on how the other dealer made out fixin your truck?


I'm havng issues with my 2013 F-250 also...


I hope your rollin down the road smiling again!


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Sorry to hear about your truck. The dealer wound up replacing the entire catalyst. Problem solved.
 
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Originally Posted by BigBore44
Icthus in AK
Anyupdate on how the other dealer made out fixin your truck?


I'm havng issues with my 2013 F-250 also...


I hope your rollin down the road smiling again!


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What kind of issues?
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBore44
...I'm havng issues with my 2013 F-250 also...
Tell us more, BigBore44; I want to see what I can do to help. How many miles are on your F-250? What are the specific issues you're having?

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Old Aug 1, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FordService
Tell us more, BigBore44; I want to see what I can do to help. How many miles are on your F-250? What are the specific issues you're having?

Crystal

Hello Crystal
These are the defects that I remember from memory. This is my Father's truck who is 83yo, he bought new in 2013 and is his only ride.


2013 F-250SD Crew 4X4, 14,900ish miles at present.


1st, Coolant leak @approx. 10,000 miles (Dec 20th 2014) dealer said no issues coolant full and NO LEAK...??? Every time I drove coolant reservoir empty, but when @ dealers it would show full (Expansion).
Finally week before Xmas vacation dropped at dealers for 10day (Appx) and they replaced water pump...


2nd problem (Middle to late May? ). approx. 100-150 mi ago, 55mph limited for 1 day, drove approx. 10-20mi driven and said engine Idled soon, went to dealers DIRECTLY and didn't get stranded on roadside (Luckily close enough to dealership)
Nothing (Parts) changed at dealers so I expect they went with code clear or ???


3rd issue/ (Saturday B4 Mothers Day) Speed limited to 55mphwhich lasted for approx. 15mi than straight to idle, left me high N dry on roadside! Within 3miles of dealer so limped to dealership @ 2MPH
NOX sensor changed.
Dealer had for 7-10days.


4th time July 12th appx/ Speed limited to 55mph/"IDLE Soon Message " directly after within 5 mins, lasted for the 5 miles to get home BUT upon next start up, Idle mode, towed to dealership.


Returned appx week later 19th?


Next Day (20th?) IDLE Mode
Towed to dealer, replaced Cat, picked up Wed 7/29


7/30 Not driven today.


7/31 Driven 20 miles, Check engine light on goin to dealer TODAY!!!


$60,000 dollar LAWN ORNAMENT!!!! Sad story from a Ford Enthusiast for 83 YEARS!!!


BigBore44
 
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