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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:22 AM
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oliver france..that "kit" does seem high to most of us..... i know you cant find parts for these old trucks just laying around in the salvage yards that you can rob COMPLETE systems from in most European countries.. there are alot of guys (like me) on these vehicle specific sites online, who do sell and ship used parts all over the world, that would be a better way to go when you need parts.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Like I said before, some e-bay sellers haven't a clue or often mislead on the subject. Initially for a time I believed that 1965-79 was a one-size-fits all (which many sellers still claim) until I started reading up on the subject here on FTE.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 11:18 AM
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What mean "BS" when you said:
"These applications are BS......" NumberDummy?
TY
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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Sorry it is a question to the last post of "NumberDummy"
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverFrance
What mean "BS" when you said:
"These applications are BS......" NumberDummy?
TY
These applications are Bull S**t / (vulgaire) c'est des conneriers.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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OK I resume my situation.
I bought already the kit on ebay:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/121682653258?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT------------------
And I will bought also this one:
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390 Ford FE Engine Pulley Kit PS
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Sorry to know, like told WhiskeyRunner, that there is someguy on this webpage that sell this kine of parts.

Anyway, I will report with picture what I will receive and what will be the result...

Thank you to everybody who give me some advise on this topic
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverFrance
Sorry it is a question to the last post of "NumberDummy"
I don't know the proper translation in French but, it equates to bull merde.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS THE RIGHT POST,
but some one can explain me what is the difference in the V8 Ford Engine.
My Engine is a V8 352 year 1967 F100,
and some time they speek about Ford FE Engine, big or small block...
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverFrance
I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS THE RIGHT POST,
but some one can explain me what is the difference in the V8 Ford Engine.
My Engine is a V8 352 year 1967 F100,
and some time they speek about Ford FE Engine, big or small block...
Pay no attention to the terms big and small block, as these are GM terms.

FE engines: 332 / 352 / 360 / 361 (1958 Edsel only) / 390 / 406 / 410 (1966/67 Mercury Parklane only) / 427 / 428.

352: 1958/67 Passenger Cars & 1965/67 F100/350 / 360: 1968/76 F100/350 / 390: 1961/71 Passenger Cars & 1968/76 F100/350.

All the rest were passenger cars only.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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they sure are some pretty pulleys.... it should look good..a lot better than my ole junk
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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'Small-block and 'big-block aren't Ford terms to describe various Ford engine families but, most people do not reference the various engine families in Ford terms. It's very common to hear big or small-block to their reference.

For the 5th generation Ford trucks 1967-1972 (often referenced as the 'Bumpsides' --also not a Ford term), the 352 FE ('big-block) was the only V-8 available in the 1967 model trucks. The two six cylinder engines that were available in the Bumpside that year was either the 240 or the 300.

In 1968, the 352 was dropped from production and replaced by the 360FE or the 390FE. The 240 or 300 was also optional.

In mid-year 1969, the Ford 302 ('small-block') was added to the engine options of 240, 300, 360 or 390. This engine lineup continued in the Bumpsides through 1972.

In 1973, the trucks were somewhat redesigned, body and equipment-wise. This body style ran from 1973-1979. The 6th generation Ford trucks are commonly referred to as the 'Dentside' trucks. Some engines carried over from the 5th generation, some engines where phased out of production during the Dentside era and some engines were added. At one point or another, during the 6th generation production run, possible engine choices were, 240 or 300 inline six cylinder, or 302, 360, 390, 351M, 400 or a 460 V-8.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 01:20 PM
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POWER STEERING FORD F100 1967 RANGER V8 352

FORD F100 1967 RANGER V8 352
Hello Everybody,
I just finish to install the kit:
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--> 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 Ford F100 F250 2WD Truck Power Steering | eBay
--> It is a Bendix gear
--> And the pully come from here:
--> 390 Ford FE Engine Pulley Kit PS
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the problem is that 2 time ( I change 2 time for a new pump), just after starting the engine 3 mn later the pump start to make some noise and start to be very very hot.
My mechanics told me that the pump was poor quality and broken.
But 2 time?
I check also with my mechanist.
1/ There is no foam in the fluid.
2/ We check the flow back into the pump and there is a good pressure.

the model of the pump is a Cardone 20-6000 pump

Can someone help me or have an idea for changing the pump by a more reliable.... or some other idea.!!

I attached some picture .
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverFrance
FORD F100 1967 RANGER V8 352
Hello Everybody,
I just finish to install the kit:
--------------------------
--> 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 Ford F100 F250 2WD Truck Power Steering | eBay
--> It is a Bendix gear
--> And the pully come from here:
--> 390 Ford FE Engine Pulley Kit PS
----------------------------

the problem is that 2 time ( I change 2 time for a new pump), just after starting the engine 3 mn later the pump start to make some noise and start to be very very hot.
My mechanics told me that the pump was poor quality and broken.
But 2 time?
I check also with my mechanist.
1/ There is no foam in the fluid.
2/ We check the flow back into the pump and there is a good pressure.

the model of the pump is a Cardone 20-6000 pump

Can someone help me or have an idea for changing the pump by a more reliable.... or some other idea.!!

I attached some picture .
You have a Saginaw power steering pump and what looks like a Bendix power steering gear box. Compared to a Saginaw PS gear box, the Bendix is a less desirable unit because it tends to run hot.

The whining noise from the power steering pump is most likely caused from air in the system that wasn't purged out before the engine was started. This will often cause damage to the pump and the whining may never go away even you you do get the air out of the system.

It's best to prime the power steering pump/system with a variable speed drill motor and a 3/8" hex bit engaged into the front of the pump shaft (turned at slow speed) BEFORE putting the belt on and starting the engine.

This is how I primed the Ford C-2 PS pump and system on my truck, before putting the V-belt on and firing up the engine. My pump has never whined since using this method.

 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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Thank you very much for your answer Ultraranger.
I will try what you have write.
Some other question.
Can I change the pump for a more reliable than the Cardone 20-6000 pump?
I read, I do not remember where, that we can ad a small cooler for the pump?
If yes do you know where I can find the item?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OliverFrance
Thank you very much for your answer Ultraranger.
I will try what you have write.
Some other question.
Can I change the pump for a more reliable than the Cardone 20-6000 pump?
I read, I do not remember where, that we can ad a small cooler for the pump?
If yes do you know where I can find the item?
While the Saginaw (Cardone 20-6000) pump isn't very attractive looking, it's considered one of the best PS pumps around. The problem most likely wasn't with the remanufactured pump but, in the method of installing it and the lack of bleeding all the air from the system, before starting the engine. This can damage any PS pump if it isn't sufficiently covered (and stay covered) with fluid before running the engine.

The idling RPMs of an engine are much higher than the slow revolutions of using a variable speed drill motor to purge the air from a newly installed PS pump and/or PS system.

There are various PS oil coolers avaible. The factory also installed them on some trucks/cars. It would be plumbed in series between the the PS gear box and the return port on the PS pump reservoir.

This is an example of what a factory PS cooler from a '69 F100 with an FE 360/390 engine looks like.


They are often listed on eBay, since I figure there aren't a lot of wrecking yards in France that you could just run out to and pull a cooler off a donor truck.

The Thompson PS pump was used on Ford cars/trucks from 1965-1977.

In 1978, the PS pump was changed to the Ford C-2 pump.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/powersteering.htm

Power steering cooler listed as 3D746 in the following diagram.
http://www.fordification.com/tech/im...o_powerpak.jpg
 
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