Notices
1999 - 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

Grill Guard 'extra weight'

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 10:09 AM
  #1  
TheGatherer's Avatar
TheGatherer
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Grill Guard 'extra weight'

After a doe walked in front of me and thankfully only broke my tag holder, I decided to get a grill guard. I found what I wanted in Boerne, TX and had it installed. Now I'm wondering about the extra 125+ pounds on the front and have looked into "Firestone Air Bags 4160 Coil-Rite Air Spring Kit[Front]Ford F-Series Super Duty"... I'd like to get some 'real' feedback on these in my application or something similar.


2012 Ford F250 XLT super duty crew cab 4x4 6.7 diesel,
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 10:28 AM
  #2  
CampSpringsJohn's Avatar
CampSpringsJohn
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,069
Likes: 17
From: Melbourne, Ky
Tell us a little about your truck. F250, F350, 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive? I can't see 125lbs making that much difference myself. Guys have plows on their trucks that far exceed that weight and nothing added to the front end.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:39 AM
  #3  
Thenewboss's Avatar
Thenewboss
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 859
Likes: 10
From: North Carolina
Originally Posted by TheGatherer
After a doe walked in front of me and thankfully only broke my tag holder, I decided to get a grill guard. I found what I wanted in Boerne, TX and had it installed. Now I'm wondering about the extra 125+ pounds on the front and have looked into "Firestone Air Bags 4160 Coil-Rite Air Spring Kit[Front]Ford F-Series Super Duty"... I'd like to get some 'real' feedback on these in my application or something similar.
The Ranch Hand I put on my 2011 F250 was upwards of 200lbs.. It degraded the MPGs a bit but it settled the front end nicely and helped a lot with bump steer.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 04:42 PM
  #4  
texastech_diesel's Avatar
texastech_diesel
Token Redneck
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 9,335
Likes: 343
From: Breckenridge, TX
Club FTE Silver Member

If you want to be 100% certain, get your real numbers from a scale at a truck stop. I use Black Cat, there are probably a dozen on I-10 or around 1604 and up 35 towards Austin. The scale receipt will tell you exactly how much weight your front axle is carrying, and you can be sure you aren't overloading the springs that are in the truck. Which is actually surprisingly easy on a Super Duty with a diesel, seems like they cut the front ratings close unless you get the +1 rate Heavy Service or +2 rate snow plow package springs.

Look at the Front GAWR on the VIN sticker on the driver's side door pillar. I have the plow package and a diesel, so mine is 6000#. Normal is more around the 5000# mark. When I weighed mine, the Front gross axle weight was a touch over 5300#. If I had the stock 5200# coils that came under a 6.0 4x4 without the plow package, I'd be overloading those springs and airbags wouldn't be the best solution to any sag. I'd upgrade 5400# Ford coils if I didn't already have a higher rated set. Higher rate stock coils will reduce sag at their rating, without adding appreciable amounts of lift. If you weigh it, come in under your FGAWR, and feel like it's squatted more than you'd prefer, then you can consider air bags or a leveling kit. But make sure you aren't going to bag out the springs because you're overloading them, all you'll do with airbags then is mask the coils slowly sagging until the axle is sitting on the stops.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 04:48 PM
  #5  
TheGatherer's Avatar
TheGatherer
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
I up-dated my thread to show what my truck is...
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 08:22 PM
  #6  
jonrjen's Avatar
jonrjen
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 10
From: TEXAS
Don't worry about it, you and the truck will be find. Now go find that next baby bambi.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 09:31 PM
  #7  
ugh3012's Avatar
ugh3012
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 152
Likes: 1
I have one of those on my truck, it came with it when I bought it used. Its bolted directly to my frame. It makes me wonder if I hit something in certain way would it do more damage to the frame than the front end. Its easier to fix the front end than the frame. I have no clue, just a thought. One thing for sure, my truck has a little rake stance to it because of the weight of it. Its cool to me.
 
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:23 PM
  #8  
TheGatherer's Avatar
TheGatherer
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Bambi!... I named that last one 'Tasty'... The truck seems to ride fine, I do notice the diff. now than before I had it put on... The thing about changing to a heavier weight spring is the other things I have to change. I'll think on this for a while.. thanks for the input..
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 08:12 AM
  #9  
fordman19762003's Avatar
fordman19762003
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,358
Likes: 250
I think you'll be fine. I bet the suspension barely even moves with the extra weight.
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2015 | 09:03 AM
  #10  
jonrjen's Avatar
jonrjen
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 10
From: TEXAS
Originally Posted by TheGatherer
Bambi!... I named that last one 'Tasty'... The truck seems to ride fine, I do notice the diff. now than before I had it put on... The thing about changing to a heavier weight spring is the other things I have to change. I'll think on this for a while.. thanks for the input..
I think the difference you feel is much like that of installing a KN air filter or an aftermarket intake......it's all in your head and seat of your pants. Let's face it, if you invest money into your truck you want to feel something other than lighter in the wallet.........Right?
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2015 | 01:44 AM
  #11  
Bigred1995's Avatar
Bigred1995
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
I have a 850 lb snow plow on my 2014 f250 and does not even require timbrens. You will be fine.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2015 | 07:57 AM
  #12  
jonrjen's Avatar
jonrjen
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,051
Likes: 10
From: TEXAS
You know, after thinking about it. Is it only strange to me that you can hand a full replacement bumper off of the front of a F250 and notice no difference. But, put the same weight in the bed of the truck and it squats like a puppy in the grass.

Just thinking here out loud.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2015 | 11:25 AM
  #13  
bayou barataria's Avatar
bayou barataria
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,543
Likes: 0
Club FTE Silver Member

I put a 400 lb top gun bumper on the front of mine when new with a 100 lb winch and after two years had to replace the front springs the I beams were sitting on the bumpers underneath, but I do keep it loaded to about 10k
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2015 | 03:12 PM
  #14  
SuperDutyScaler's Avatar
SuperDutyScaler
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,449
Likes: 70
From: South Jersey
Originally Posted by jonrjen
You know, after thinking about it. Is it only strange to me that you can hand a full replacement bumper off of the front of a F250 and notice no difference. But, put the same weight in the bed of the truck and it squats like a puppy in the grass. Just thinking here out loud.
LOL I was thinking the same thing as I was ready through the thread.

iPhone from IB AutoGroup
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
nutmg1
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
6
Aug 15, 2011 09:47 PM
slickretta
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
Nov 23, 2010 09:07 PM
Ruckus
2004 - 2008 F150
32
Sep 1, 2009 04:28 AM
Toyman
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
12
Dec 3, 2008 10:12 AM
phoneman91
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Nov 23, 2008 07:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:40 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE