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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 05:44 PM
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Well I wAs going to go get that frame tomorrow, but the seller informed me it was gone today. I'll get some tear down pics up tomorrow maybe when I'm off. If the buyer is on here and doesn't need the front axle/suspension...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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Well shoot. Sorry to hear that.

It's a little farther away, but here's a listing in evansville for a rolling chassis with a running motor:

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And an axle near cinci:

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/4949017925.html

Yeah, I spend too much time on craigslist.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 09:22 PM
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I greatly appreciate the legwork from you guys, most helpful forum Ive been on. I'm scheduled for tens, and often work over that so I don't have a lot of time to scour the Internet while working. I'm looking into these leads as well. Maybe I'll end up with something this six days off after all.
Is an f2 front axle compatible with my f1?
Edit:quick search tells me 8 lug hubs, but otherwise as far as front axle I'm good? Is the leaf spring length the same, steering components?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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F1-3 uses the same axle and front end components, including the spindles, so the hubs are interchangeable with F1 5 lug parts. F1 disc brake conversion kits will bolt right on, too.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 06:58 PM
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Well it was a trip, but I got what I needed and met some nice people. Thanks again for the Craigslist leads.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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Also a couple eBay buys. Running board was supposedly possibly NOS according to seller but I highly doubt it after receiving it. Anyhow for 140$ even for one running board,reproduction or not don't seem bad.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 06:22 AM
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Nice score. Man look how straight that tie rod is. I don't think I have ever seen an old one that straight. You also got some nice original rims. The innies are pretty hard to find. (Or I wasn't looking in the right place.)

That running board looks pretty good.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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Nice score. Man look how straight that tie rod is. I don't think I have ever seen an old one that straight. You also got some nice original rims. The innies are pretty hard to find. (Or I wasn't looking in the right place.)

That running board looks pretty good.
Yeah I think I did alright.All in with fuel I was in under 300$ for what's in the bed.Will definitely need brakes and kingpins.Kingpin set is on it's way,trying to find the correct reamer now. Cheapest in town was 100$ to install and align/ream bushings.One shop wanted 85$ a side if i brought them everything took apart,bushings already installed.
I now have 3 16's and a 15 inch wheel now lol. "Innies" these are known as? Are they original? They have tubes installed, and so did the rear.I have my own tire machine and just threw some modern tires I had laying around on for now so I can move the chassis around.

Unfortunately the running board doesn't seem correct now that I've put it side by side the original.I started another thread for that question.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Here's some pics from when I towed it home, and a couple I took while taking it apart. I should be out there now pulling the drivetrain and getting that front axle under it, but it's 27 degrees here again after having been in the 50's/60's. Pretty well kills motivation.

This is probably the only pic of the interior before I took it out. In much the condition you'd expect and what most probably started with. All the glass was busted out for who knows how long.

Now for some of the "bad" stuff. It's really very solid I think, came from the western side of Nebraska.Never been there but it must be fairly dry as it was obviously outside for a long time.Would not had been anything left of it here in northwest Indiana.I've daily driven cars with worse floors lol. It had literally a large wheelbarrow's worth of dust/mud in the floor,cab corners,inside the bottom of doors,wherever it could fit. This held moisture I suppose and there's rust hole in the passenger cab corner,luckily in between the cab and bed so I can patch in without losing the patina I like. As I'm sure most you guys are aware anywhere two pieces of sheet metal were sandwiched to reinforce dust collected and metal rotted.


reinforcing strip at rear of rear fender






double walled part of front fender






rear half of floor in great shape, will need to do front half,cab mount plates.

The front sheetmetal had been knocked around over time, panels aren't all straight and passenger fender was pushed into cab. This is something I'm not sure what to do about, I'm not really a body guy.I would like to pull out the dent, but don't want to change the rust/paint anywhere visible.I'd also like the seams and lines to butt together better. I think I can manage that pretty well with hammer and dolly, but any advice from those who know better as I go along is welcome.







this is where the fender was pushed in the cab



This should show how much.




bottom rear of passenger front fender. I figure this will have to be a patch panel and tigged or migged in. Probably to crinkled too much for my at the moment non existent sheet metal shaping abilities.


Lastly for now some pics to show why I don't know if this flathead will be worth me using. When first checking out the truck I had hopes of seeing what it was like to drive one(I'm 26,never even worked on one), figuring as complete as it was(missing only starter) it wouldnt take a lot of money to get going. I always planned for a new powerplant but would have liked to drive it for whatever amount of time it took to plan and buy everything so as to get it done over a winter or so.Or maybe I would've just enjoyed it that way.Anyhow mice had the entire crankcase packed with nesting material, and the bottom end is badly rusted.I'll get good pics for everyone to see once it's on the stand and I attempt to tear it down.It also looks like it's a mercury engine.The heads I believe definitely are as they say mercury and EAC right on them.I'm aware everything interchanges and the heads could've been put on anytime, so we'll see about the rest.


bottom of oil pan.I've read some of these had a clean out/inspection cover? I assume it was removed at some point or just from not having a front axle laying on the ground the pan rusted out allowing them in.Or maybe the downdraft tube.






This is the amount of stuff that ended up coming out of the engine.


This is how it sets at the moment.I should be getting the front axle I bought on and the drivetrain pulled soon.


Homemade bumper. I've heard they were common, almost didn't go look at the truck over it but it's grown on me. Gonna leave it for now anyhow.They also put a piece of 3/16 plate over the wood.That'll probably go.








I'm gonna get it up higher on stands on the trailer so I back it in between the lift to pick it off the trailer. Then get that axle under the front.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Little bit more teardown and discovery progress pics...


got the front axle I went and bought put in, it's rolling now.





First time on the lift and really spending some time underneath it. Never mind the garage, been a long winter.Definitely time for some organization.


There's no doubt this truck was worked hard. Looks like they added an auxilary leaf pack, even with bolt-on spring stops for the aux pack. It appears they loaded it enough to use them, too. All the bed to frame bolts are loose, there's a pretty good crack in the passenger frame rail at the forward-most bed support. The left front cab mount bracket is cracked up, too.








 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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Hey Black04,
Welcome Aboard. Nice truck. Your cab floor actually looks pretty good & having the original dash is great!

o They don't make replacement doors or hoods for our years so be nice to yours. You can get fiberglass fenders fairly reasonable ($240ea) - Steel is also available but bring your wallet.

o If you need some patch panels for the cab corners - We used a member on here who goes by Reamer to make our's. He gets the curves right.

o You may be the only person I've ever seen on here who has his own Tire Machine in his shop. That's pretty cool.

Looking good over there in Indiana!

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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 11:04 PM
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Thanks. Best thing about that machine is what I payed for it.Got it with the lift and a few other pieces of equipment when a shop was closing up.They never die, It's an old coats 40-40sa if I remember exactly.Funny thing is I can't even see it in the pics I posted lol.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2015 | 11:32 PM
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Hey Black04,
I think you mentioned the tire machine in one of your first posts
on this thread - just thought it was cool. I'd use it a lot if I had one.

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