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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Wire assistance/ID

While I was tinkering with my 7.3 the other day I came across these 2 cut wires.
They're both red?
Or brown?
And I don't see a tracer on either(?)
There joined together like speaker wires.
They're location is in the valley, headed towards the spider maybe under it(?)
The fuel bowl is at the bottom of the pic.
And my intake spider is at the top of the pic.
The pic was taken over the valley between the fuel bowl and spider.
I tried tracing where they're coming from but it Y's into more wire loom and then joins the large wiring loom.
I don't see any other broken wires where they could of come from...
The only code is the P0470 (EBPS error)
I've removed the EBPS/ tube and cleaned both (and the ex manifold port and the bracket joint where the EBPS and tube meet).
I've cleared the code and it immediately pops up even without starting it in between clearing the code and rechecking codes.)
So I'm assuming my EBPS is bad OR these wires go to the sensor pigtail (?)
Truck is running/starting fine and no lights on the dash.
Any help is appreciated guys thanks!

 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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I'm gonna guess the fuel heater. Kinda that color. Could be white and gold, but sometimes blue and black. He said in jest.

Plus I see no wires sticking out the back of your fuel heater plug.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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This is a E99, shouldve mentioned that
Does it have a fuel heater?
Edit the fuel heater is on the bowl duh, I'll take another look
There are plugs/wires on the spider but they look good,
I know being an e99 they don't have an intake heater(?)
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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You sir, are a Genious!
Look at the back of my fuel bowl next to the drain valve.
There's a black plastic female connector that has nothing plugged in to it;
Anyone know where I can pick-up a fuel bowl heater pigtail harness?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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Be advised that if you plug it back in, it might short a fuse that also takes out the PCM (fuse #30). Many just leave that unplugged so they don't have to worry about the heater shorting out and causing a no start.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 06:46 PM
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Didn't know that Chris, thanks!
So is it ok to run without the heater?
(I'm guessing so since that's the way I've been driving her ha)
Out if curiosity,
Is it the element draw?
Or a unhook battery THEN plug it in type of thing?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 07:16 PM
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You can run without it with no issues. The element tends to short out, causing the fuse to blow and necessitating replacement of the element or leaving it unplugged.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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Better put some end caps on those wires before they short out.
 
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Excellent info thanks again guys!
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I'm going to cap, tape and label em tomm.
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 09:01 PM
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Be advised that if you plug it back in, it might short a fuse that also takes out the PCM (fuse #30). Many just leave that unplugged so they don't have to worry about the heater shorting out and causing a no start.
You can use a DVOM to set to OHM to test the Heater. Should be 25 or more.

The Fuel Heater will only activate below 30*F.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 07:05 AM
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Excellent info thanks again guys!
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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Probably not connected for a reason! The one wire looks like it has been cleanly cut. Dual layered heat shrink works really good for sealing them up.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 05:02 PM
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ZombiePopper, I realize down in Kansas that the cold might not be there very often. But the fuel bowl heater saved my *** today with -11 temps in Williamsburg Iowa. The fuel in my prescreen was cloudy, but the truck fired up and kept running with a 60 psi reading. I feel it was because of the heater in the fuel bowl. The reason I think this was is because the truck that fired up next to me (2001 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9 Diesel). Kept loosing fuel pressure to the main fuel injection pump until the 911 and heat from the fuel system was able to get recirculated through the system. An hour later we were able to jump on the interstate and come home. Yea I idled that long. Engine oil temp at 150 degrees by then. And here I was worried about my truck starting!! Replace your fuel bowl heater, you never know when you might need it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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I live in Alabama. I'll be sure to replace the heater element if I go north a few hundred miles in February! Lowest temps in history here and it's only gone down to 16 degrees for a few hours. Glad it worked well for you.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 09:08 PM
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grweldon thank you for your your concern. Yes we made it back ok. His stock fuel filter is not heated. However the fuel pump is located in the fuel tank so the pump was always pushing fuel to his filter, and eventually enough 911 and heat reached to keep him running. Took a long time. He had to keep shutting off his truck for at least 20 times because the pressure dropped below 4 psi,,,,,,,that supplies the Dodges main fuel pump in those years. Lack of fuel pressure = destroyed injection pump. I kept telling him one pound is enough to keep truck running at an idle. It is nice to know that a heated fuel bowl and a higher flow pre-screen can keep you running better than a Dodge in cold weather. Especially on start up.
 
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