So one of the batteries was marginal and i picked up a new one.
Double checked all terminals and plugged in AE. Looked for codes again and got P0603.

Logged as I cranked and here is what i have:

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</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:51.281</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:52.687</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:54.218</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:55.890</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:57.625</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:10:59.187</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:00.687</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:02.312</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:03.890</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:05.625</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:07.187</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:08.781</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:10.484</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:12.109</td> <td align="right">13.8</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">149</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:13.687</td> <td align="right">11.2</td> <td align="right">38.28</td> <td align="right">1937.91</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">139.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:15.203</td> <td align="right">10.8</td> <td align="right">42.58</td> <td align="right">2272.2</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">141</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:16.781</td> <td align="right">10.6</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2374.02</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">138.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:18.390</td> <td align="right">10.6</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2390.42</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">140.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:19.875</td> <td align="right">10.6</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2387.03</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">143.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:21.562</td> <td align="right">10.6</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2391.56</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">133</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:23.281</td> <td align="right">10.5</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2385.9</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">136.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:24.875</td> <td align="right">10.5</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2394.38</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">133.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:26.453</td> <td align="right">10.4</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2388.73</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">111.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:28.046</td> <td align="right">12.3</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2388.73</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">111.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:29.562</td> <td align="right">12.3</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:31.031</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:32.546</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:34.171</td> <td align="right">12.7</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:35.859</td> <td align="right">11.6</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:37.421</td> <td align="right">11.4</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:38.968</td> <td align="right">11.1</td> <td align="right">14.84</td> <td align="right">612.03</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">130</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:40.515</td> <td align="right">10.1</td> <td align="right">41.79</td> <td align="right">2112.69</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">131</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:42.031</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2355.92</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">132</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:43.578</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2390.42</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">129.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:45.093</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2388.73</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">129.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:46.625</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2390.42</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">131</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:48.171</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2394.38</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">129.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:49.703</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.75</td> <td align="right">2392.12</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td 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height="19"> 01:11:55.968</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2398.34</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">131.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:57.515</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">43.36</td> <td align="right">2398.34</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:11:58.968</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:12:00.531</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> <td style="height:14.4pt" height="19"> 01:12:02.015</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td>
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Any suggestions on next steps?
Thanks

 

Any ideas?

 

Is the truck chipped? If it is, make sure the chip is sitting tight, and the connectors are clean. Otherwise, check the connections in the engine, those codes you said it threw are kind of all over the place, so that suggests a bad connection somewhere, or a bad ground possibly. I don't know where the grounds are so I can't help you much more there. Otherwise I would check the 42 pin connector, and the big connector that goes to the PCM for sure.

Baatzy

 

I have a 3 position DP tuner. Will check that tonight. I disconnected the 42 pin connector and reseated every thing. Didn't see any hint of a problem there.

 

Took the DP tuner out. Still no go. I will run a scan with AE in a bit.

I took the top off of the HPOP and it was full. I've been thinking it should be about half an inch below the top. Being full is that cause for concern?

 

Tried the buzz test and got P1668. Heard nothing from the motor.
I will check the IDM fuse. Any other ideas?

 

IDM fuse and relay are OK.

I pulled out the IDM and the connector looked OK as well as the pins. But there was a strange hole that kind of looked like a grommet or gasket sits in about 1/2 inch in diameter. Can see the board. Is that hole supposed to be there?

Any other ideas? This is getting kind of long

 

Just to clarify a bit, when it died on you what was it doing? Driving, Idling? How did it die? Did it slowly chug off to death, or was it more like turning the key off?

What does the engine do now? Is it just the injector buzz test it won't perform, or can you not get it to read other values / do other tests? Will it turn over?

I don't think the HPOP being full is anything bad, I think what happened there was the LPOP continued to push oil up there and it wasn't getting used quick enough so it filled the reservoir.

I don't know about the IDM, I've never looked at mine, maybe someone else with more knowledge will chime in on that.

 

Baatzy-
Thanks so much for the reply. Been really banging my head on this thing.
My wife was driving the truck at the time and while at a stop light gave it fuel and clutch then it died. She thought she have stalled it. Couldn't restart.

So i would consider this more of a sudden death--not gradual sputter.

I have done data logging with AE and been able to get readings while cranking. Yesterday i noticed the fuel injector pulse width was only making it to 4.79 ms--i thought it was supposed to be more.

I looked at a few pictures of IDMs on line and noticed the same hole in the case.

I've been double checking fuses, relays, back of fuse panels, wires and connections.

 

Well i found a small shiny plug on the ground that fits over the odd hole on the IDM. Then i found a post here that describes the plug and a theory of water infiltration here (#31).

Here's the case and button:



So i shook the case and noticed a dirty drop of water appear in the hole. The box shows corrosion on the lower end by the connector.

The other odd thing is that the hole has a peculiar odor that i was smelling at the driver's door after cranking to start. Looks like i will be picking up an IDM.

Finally something to fix

 

Hopefully that does it, it makes sense anyhow. Let us know if it solves it. Good luck!

Baatzy

 

Report back, I'd like to know as well.

 

Meccox, I had the same thing happen to me but water got in mine somehow with the plug being in place. I ended up ordering one off e-bay from a company in Florida that rebuilds them for $130. Had it for about 1.5 years now with no problems. Not sure if I am the exception but I talked to the manager there and he said the actually have a test engine that they test every IDM with before shipping them. He said they rebuild most of the IDM's for the large autopart stores. Not trying to suggest anything here just posting my results so far. Good luck!

 

UPS guy delivered the IDM. Took about 3 minutes to install. hooked up the batteries. Turned the key and it started instantly!!!!!!!!!!!

I am thoroughly relieved that it worked. Will button up tomorrow and hook up the AE just to verify all is good.

Thanks for your input through this ordeal.

Richard

 

Glad to hear, thanks for letting us know!

Baatzy