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Old 02-21-2015, 10:40 AM
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Higher top end + lower revs?

Just bought a 78 F250 4x4 which I am restoring.
The truck still has the standard straight 6 motor and 4 speed manual gearbox.
At the moment when it gets to about 60 mph the revs are pretty high.
I am considering fitting a Cleveland 351 in there , but what do I do to get the revs down a bit and raise the top end. I would like it to be able to do 80 mph without the revs running at nearly max. Do I need to fit another gearbox or do I need to modify diff ratios?

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Originally Posted by J3THRO
At the moment when it gets to about 60 mph the revs are pretty high.
Define "pretty high"?

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I am considering fitting a Cleveland 351 in there , but what do I do to get the revs down a bit and raise the top end. I would like it to be able to do 80 mph without the revs running at nearly max. Do I need to fit another gearbox or do I need to modify diff ratios?
You could do either or both but much depends what axle ratio you have now. I'd definitely suggest changing the trans to a newer Zf 5-speed to gain the OD ratio, that will even help the I6 cope better.
 
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Originally Posted by J3THRO
Just bought a 78 F250 4x4 which I am restoring.
The truck still has the standard straight 6 motor and 4 speed manual gearbox.
At the moment when it gets to about 60 mph the revs are pretty high.
I am considering fitting a Cleveland 351 in there , but what do I do to get the revs down a bit and raise the top end. I would like it to be able to do 80 mph without the revs running at nearly max. Do I need to fit another gearbox or do I need to modify diff ratios?

Thanks
Well it is not running comfortable at 60 so much so that I do not feel the motor will cope with 80 mph for 100 mile trips.
Its hard to say exactly but it runs high revs at 60 mph.
 
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You could do either or both but much depends what axle ratio you have now. I'd definitely suggest changing the trans to a newer Zf 5-speed to gain the OD ratio, that will even help the I6 cope better.
I will start looking for a 5 speed transmission then. They are hard to find in South Africa though.
 
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Do you know what axle gearing the truck has? I'd suggest changing the gearing but it can be an expensive job with a 4wd since you have to change both axles. Installing a tech would be a good idea even if it's just temporary so you know what actual rpms are.
 
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This site has already helped me immensely with part numbers and other info. Just by checking the FAQ section. Thanks again.
I still have mullions of questions but I will cross those bridges as we get to them.
 
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Don't forget to factor in the tire size you plan on using. I still like using: Gear Ratio Calculator to compare different configurations.
 
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Don't forget to factor in the tire size you plan on using. I still like using: Gear Ratio Calculator to compare different configurations.
Thanks gfw very helpfull
 
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