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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 12:43 PM
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Help with electrical/ vacuum part

Ok so I'm attempting to clean up/fix all of the vacuum and electrical on my 75 f250 with 360 and np 4 speed.
Here's the run down. Was initially a CA compliant truck but egr and smog pump were both majorly defective so since no emmissions checks will be done anymore, egr and smog pump were removed.
Now a few quick questions I'm hoping somebody can help me with. First what is this part in following post and how must/should it be hooked up.

Secondly any diagrams or basic vacuum help is greatly appreciated there is so much tangled vacuum lines and unhooked lines from PO that it's proving very difficult.

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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Looks like it might be a bowl vent solenoid?

If it's a normally-open solenoid valve (i.e., you can blow through it when it's disconnected, but when you apply 12V it closes), then that's probably what it is. It would connect between the external carb bowl vent and the charcoal canister, to prevent pressure build-up when a hot vehicle is parked. Wire to switched 12V power so it closes when the engine's running but is open otherwise.

Different application, but this thread at a Mustang forum has good info: Fuel Bowl Solenoid Valve
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 01:06 PM
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If I blow in the bottom port it is open through the bottom black part and top port is closed
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 01:15 PM
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Wow Bud!! You put your lips on that nasty thing?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Hmm ... not sure then. Anyone else recognize it?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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If you have de smogged the truck Than I am pretty sure you can live without that.
Just plum the vacuum to give you the bare essentials. Like spark advance and
power brakes. There really isn't much more to if anything to make it run fine.
It won't be any more fuel friendly. But she wasn't to start with. After you get all
the smog/vacuum stuff deleted don't forget the retune the carb (maybe even re jet
it) and set the timing. At this point I use a vacuum gauge and my ear.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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Agreed. If you're not trying to maintain evaporative emissions, etc., all you'd really need to run the engine are:

-Spark advance getting either manifold or ported vacuum through a ported vacuum switch (i.e., keeps timing retarded until the engine warms up - you could eliminate the ported vacuum switch and just always run manifold vacuum in a pinch, though it might get a little more cold-blooded).
-Manifold vacuum to brake booster (if applicable) and HVAC controls (if applicable)
-Manifold vacuum to automatic transmission modulator (if applicable)

Beyond that, the EGR valve was vacuum actuated (also via a ported vacuum switch so it was only active once the engine was warmed up), and the canister purge system would have vacuum-controlled valves in it and feed into some of the carb ports. But if you don't want to clean it up and recover that functionality, you can just cap off any spare ports and run just the essentials.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 02:39 PM
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Ok so it is a manual trans factory a/c.

I have two vacuum trees on front of manifold.
One in rear of manifold that had brake booster and one to inside cab (hvac?)
One on tstat housing with three going all over
Then I've got lines going to each fuel tank then to some canister on frame?

Here's a pic to see this atrocity

 
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Old Feb 12, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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This port on top of carb to what?<br/><br/>
 
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That's just a bowl vent ^^^^ Plum it so it draws filtered air.
 
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If I was doing it like I used to. I would unplug and cap everything
But the vacuum advance. The trans module (that you don't have)
The heater/AC And brakes. I can't think of anything else I would
use. Or need to. But it will run like crap till ya tune it for sure.
Prolly all ready does and is why your doing this. DUHH
 
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Ok I have everything capped and ran just how you said. Now to get the bowl vent filtered air where would you recommend running it

Then my last question would be what to do with the vacuum type lines coming into engine area going from both fuel tanks to the canister on frame
 
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The canister on the frame is the charcoal canister. The lines from the tank should run to it. Then, for canister purge, there would usually be vacuum-actuated valves between the canisters and one of the ports on the bottom of the carburetor; typically, the vacuum to the canister purge valves would come from the same place as the EGR vacuum - that is, a ported vacuum switch to only purge once the engine's warmed up. A complete setup would also run the bowl vents to the canisters, with solenoid valves as described previously that close when the engine is on.

If you want to eliminate all that and just pollute rather than recovering your fuel vapors, you'd remove the canisters and the vent lines from the tanks, cap the lines at the tanks, and switch to vented gas caps that will relieve pressure there. Then, you could do as arctic y block suggests and just plumb the bowl vent back to the inside of the air cleaner.
 
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