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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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Is it possible to get a 5.9l 360 to make 450 horsepower without doing the stroker kit. And if so what mods should be done and what bolts on should be used and which ones to avoid
 
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Old Jan 29, 2015 | 11:53 PM
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What you wanna do is buy a crank, rods, and pistons all separately so you can stroke it, but technically since your buying it all separately it's not a kit.

I don't think there's any reasonable or possible way to give a 360 450hp with bolt ons. If your dead set on making power, build the proper engine with the right components. If your just going off your butt dyno, freshen up the top end with some yummies and a cam.
If I were you though I'd turn it into a 390; if your looking for parts, I happen to be selling parts as I'm turning my 390 into a 445.

Best of luck
 
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Old Jan 31, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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yeah long tube headers, ported 428cj or edelbrock heads, rpm intake and 240-250 duration at .050 camshaft. But count on it being worthless till 3500-4000rpm. Get the most inches you can and go for torque.
 
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Originally Posted by fordeverpower
yeah long tube headers, ported 428cj or edelbrock heads, rpm intake and 240-250 duration at .050 camshaft. But count on it being worthless till 3500-4000rpm. Get the most inches you can and go for torque.
What would be away to setup for torque and what's a good gear ratio
 
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[QUOTE=Fellenz;15041347]What you wanna do is buy a crank, rods, and pistons all separately so you can stroke it, but technically since your buying it all separately it's not a kit.

I don't think there's any reasonable or possible way to give a 360 450hp with bolt ons. If your dead set on making power, build the proper engine with the right components. If your just going off your butt dyno, freshen up the top end with some yummies and a cam.
If I were you though I'd turn it into a 390; if your looking for parts, I happen to be selling parts as I'm turning my 390 into a 445.

Best of luck[/QUOTE is there a forum where someone has gone from 360 to 427
 
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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In my experience, thats not something that is commonly done. Much because the bore of a 427 block is huge, 4.223 stock or there-around.
A 360-390 block is a 4.05 bore standard...you would need to take a stupid amount of meat out in order to do that, and I don't know of any blocks, other than the 427 blocks that will take it. Even a 428 block has a 4.13 bore stock, and when I was looking at stroker assemblies, I was told my block wouldn't take a bore like that, which is a 360/390 block.

My advise, stick with the stuff designed for your block, its there for a reason, unless you want to start totally fresh with a new block...but $$$$$$$$ if you can find one.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fellenz
In my experience, thats not something that is commonly done. Much because the bore of a 427 block is huge, 4.223 stock or there-around.
A 360-390 block is a 4.05 bore standard...you would need to take a stupid amount of meat out in order to do that, and I don't know of any blocks, other than the 427 blocks that will take it. Even a 428 block has a 4.13 bore stock, and when I was looking at stroker assemblies, I was told my block wouldn't take a bore like that, which is a 360/390 block.

My advise, stick with the stuff designed for your block, its there for a reason, unless you want to start totally fresh with a new block...but $$$$$$$$ if you can find one.
So would mods exactly would work on a 360 besides the 390 crank and Pistons and rods. I got to keep the truck driveable for the time being. So all mods would have to be things that can be done quickly and still keep truck driveable
 
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Old Feb 2, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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Under those conditions, I would think of all the things you can do without pulling the engine, which would be mostly top end work.
Is your setup two or four barrel? If its two, a four barrel carb and intake would be first on my list. Consider an aluminum intake? The weight savings is literally around 50 pounds.

Aluminum heads are stupid expensive, and I can't see the benefit being worth it for what you want to do. If your good with your hands and have some tools, I would maybe port match the intake and heads, that is rather time consuming, but its free.
Headers are another consideration I would look at. Essentially my goal would be to get your engine to breathe as well as possible. Anything with the bottom end of can really requires pulling the engine which equates to considerable time down.

My checklist would be:
4barrel, 600-650,cfm
Aluminum intake
Port work (if confident)
Headers if it doesn't require major surgery.

I forgot..electronic ignition! Its relatively cheap and it made my engine start and run better, at least to me.

All in all, there's plenty of things you can do to get started on your road to power, just plan it out and keep us updated.
 
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Under those conditions, I would think of all the things you can do without pulling the engine, which would be mostly top end work.
Is your setup two or four barrel? If its two, a four barrel carb and intake would be first on my list. Consider an aluminum intake? The weight savings is literally around 50 pounds.

Aluminum heads are stupid expensive, and I can't see the benefit being worth it for what you want to do. If your good with your hands and have some tools, I would maybe port match the intake and heads, that is rather time consuming, but its free.
Headers are another consideration I would look at. Essentially my goal would be to get your engine to breathe as well as possible. Anything with the bottom end of can really requires pulling the engine which equates to considerable time down.

My checklist would be:
4barrel, 600-650,cfm
Aluminum intake
Port work (if confident)
Headers if it doesn't require major surgery.

I forgot..electronic ignition! Its relatively cheap and it made my engine start and run better, at least to me.

All in all, there's plenty of things you can do to get started on your road to power, just plan it out and keep us updated.
It already has a holly 4 bbl 600cfm with a factory intake
 
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Abandon all hope of making a performance engine out of a 360. The 360 piston is over .100 down the hole, resulting in no quench and low compression.

If you have the intake and 4bbl, add headers and drive it.

For 450 HP you need more compression, and there is no way to fix that short of custom pistons or 390 parts or 410 parts or aftermarket stroker kits.

You can not "make a 427" out of a 360 or any other FE. The 427 blocks are cast with the large bore in mind, and no other FE will take that bore.

You can go to 445 via stroke, and with the 2 bolt mains, that's enough methinks.....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Abandon all hope of making a performance engine out of a 360. The 360 piston is over .100 down the hole, resulting in no quench and low compression.

If you have the intake and 4bbl, add headers and drive it.

For 450 HP you need more compression, and there is no way to fix that short of custom pistons or 390 parts or 410 parts or aftermarket stroker kits.

You can not "make a 427" out of a 360 or any other FE. The 427 blocks are cast with the large bore in mind, and no other FE will take that bore.

You can go to 445 via stroke, and with the 2 bolt mains, that's enough methinks.....
Thanks . Anybody know where I could find headers with tubro hook anybody got a lead on some
 
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A turbo is not the answer as boost on top of a detonation-prone-no-quench combustion chamber with cast pistons won't end well.......

On the other hand, search for "360 FE turbo" or similar and find that you are not the first with the idea, and that apparently it has been done.

This is supposed to be a 390--same as a 360 as far as manifolds etc:

332-428 Ford FE Engine Forum: turbo 390 ford fe RX7 update

More of the same here:

http://www.theturboforums.com/thread...d-Build-Thread
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
A turbo is not the answer as boost on top of a detonation-prone-no-quench combustion chamber with cast pistons won't end well.......

On the other hand, search for "360 FE turbo" or similar and find that you are not the first with the idea, and that apparently it has been done.

This is supposed to be a 390--same as a 360 as far as manifolds etc:

332-428 Ford FE Engine Forum: turbo 390 ford fe RX7 update

More of the same here:

http://www.theturboforums.com/thread...d-Build-Thread
I'm not keeping it 360 now. Im going to make it a 390. Just right now I'm trying to get info. Will the same spark plug wires on the 390 work on the 360
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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I'm not keeping it 360 now. Im going to make it a 390. Just right now I'm trying to get info. Will the same spark plug wires on the 390 work on the 360


What would the reason be for them not working?
Let me put it this way, the only real difference between a 360 and a 390 is the bore and stroke.
Many parts from a 332 would work on a 428 in this respect.

My advise at this point is don't get on over your head if your doing this yourself. In order to do a build like this where the actual displacement changes, skill and proper tools become vital things.
Learning is great, but don't bite off more than you can chew..
 
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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hi,are you sure its a 360,not a 390, you can make crazy amount of compression on these fe motors,i raced a lot of these back in the 80s with very little changes to them you just got to get them to breath,
 
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