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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 07:23 AM
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44 half ton

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Hoping this is a pic of the 44 half ton I have coming,I'm in the uk
I'm told it runs,stops and steers very well and is a solid ol truck! Fingers crossed on that
I intend to fit a dropped front axle and lower the rear-any advice/tips on that please
Want to fit a dual system,again advice on that please
Will probably get some period looking lettering done on the doors as an ad for my electrical business
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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I think The truck has slightly taller tyres than stock, but everything else is standard. Does that mean it will have a fairly dismal cruising speed? Would be nice to be able to sit at 60
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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You can bet it will have VERY low gearing; most pickups ranging from 4.11 to 5.13+, if I recall correctly. Although over-size tires will help some, your cruising speed will more likely be @ 35mph. If you must have a cruising speed closer to 60, (more realistically 50),look for a rare set of 3.54 gears in addition to larger diameter tires. (Also be sure the higher ring gear will fit inside the housing)
 
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Wow, 35! I won't be too popular on main roads
 
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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^^^Nope; and don't even think about using freeways..
 
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The half tons cruised at 55-60 easy. The gears would be about a 3.78 or 4.11 for half tons. The higher, numerically, numbers were used on the bigger trucks. I used to drive my '46 with the 226 six and 3.78 stock rear at 60-65 on the freeways, and hauling stuff in the bed.
Although I preferred not to so much, since the revs are a little higher than I like
 
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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The guy I'm getting it from "thinks" it has 4.11 gears
 
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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What about an overdrive gearbox, bet they are rare?
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Old Jan 1, 2015 | 08:21 PM
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There was no overdrive factory option for that truck new. The after market offered small two speed auxiliary transmissions back in the day, but good luck finding one now. A 3.78 rear axle ratio will get you going 60 no problems and will drive very nicely around town. The tires on the truck now will also help keep your speeds up and look good on a truck.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 01:37 AM
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Where would I get those 3.78 gears?
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ianrhall
Where would I get those 3.78 gears?
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You can get them new, I just saw them somewhere. Is it important to keep it stock? It might be cheaper to get a 9 inch rear end from a little newer pickup with something like 3.70 or 3.90 gears.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 04:22 AM
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Yes that might be a better option, not quite as easy for me as I'm in the uk, parts not so readily available
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 46fordtruck
The half tons cruised at 55-60 easy. The gears would be about a 3.78 or 4.11 for half tons. The higher, numerically, numbers were used on the bigger trucks. I used to drive my '46 with the 226 six and 3.78 stock rear at 60-65 on the freeways, and hauling stuff in the bed.
Although I preferred not to so much, since the revs are a little higher than I like
I will have to disagree; you were not cruising "at 55-60 easy", you were almost maxed out at @ 4000 rpm, not a speed or rpm to be holding for any length of time with these trucks. Think about it; they were designed for low speeds on dirt and gravel roads, long before the interstate freeway system came into the picture.

If you guys cannot settle for anything less than the "attributes" of todays vehicles, then strip the heart and soul out of it with modern drivetrain, make a street rod out of it, and subscribe to the HAMB!......(rant over..)

P.S. You can get the early gear sets at many early Ford part stores here in the U.S. Do a Google search or start with the Ford Barn site..
The 3.78 gears are more common than 3.54 (think used) and more reasonably priced. With o-sized tires, would be your best compromise.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gear-Splitter
I will have to disagree; you were not cruising "at 55-60 easy", you were almost maxed out at @ 4000 rpm, not a speed or rpm to be holding for any length of time with these trucks.
The 1/2 ton pickups used the same rear axle as the cars through 1941. From 42 through 47 the 1/2 ton pickups used an open drive version of the same car axle. Ring and pinion ratios of 3.78 are common. These do not spin your engine at 4000 rpm at 60 mph. With a 28 inch tall tire, roughly the size of a 6.00-16 bias ply, you are turning the following rpm at 60 with the following gear ratios:

Ratio-->RPM
4.11-->2960
3.78-->2723
3.54-->2550

New ring and pinion sets are available, just make sure to buy one where the pinion is designed for the open drive. I think it is worth it to keep the stock axle under your truck.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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44 half ton

I knew I would get all the info here!
I hope I have 3.78s but suspect 4.11
I hope to have the truck in a few weeks so will know for sure then

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