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If I recall correctly, the vans got some sort of thin stick-on badge, the F-series got a more meatier version, and the X's ... well, because after the first run of them where the V10 became the "standard" engine, they stopped putting anything on them.
I like either of these two types; below.
I see plenty on Ebay but I am boycotting Paypal and therefore I can't do business with Ebay.
does anyone have this type to sell me?
Dealerships too expensive for this type of toy.
I have a 2005 v10 extended van. Needed a little work, cosmetic stuff on the roof, a/c system replacement. 110,000 miles california only vehicle all white purchase price 4,000.00 US. Equivalent sprinter purchase price? Im guessing north of $50k. So I could have gone new sprinter, new transit route, requiring me to lose 46,000 more in cash or finance/lease the new sprinter/ transit. I choose to do the lower priced van and upgrade as needed. New van that sits in driveway much of the time is burning money, as I said either a chunk of 4 or 5 stacks of high society or financing. Yes, I could whittle the van use into travel for business and write off depreciation, but except for long trips the van would be sitting there.
so lets say a new sprinter is $50,000, I add 6 in upgrades to the used v10 van (new tires, bilstein shocks, a/c components, roof work, steering dampener. v10 van at 10k, sprinter at 50 k.
The v10 averages 16 mpg on trips at 62 mph. so, lets do 200,000 miles with the sprinter at 25 mpg for fun.
Van acquisition and upgrades $10k, 200,000/16 =13,035 gallons, x 5.00 per gallon that's $65,000 dollars US. plus 10k $75000 dollars for 200,000 miles not including maint.
Sprinter $50,000, 200,000/25 is 8000 gallons, x $5.50 per gallon thats $44,000 in gas plus $50k is $94,000 for 200,000 miles.
I overestimated gas prices. They are, here in CA, between 4,00 and 4,50 per gallon.
I didn't include maintenance which for all parts and labor would be significantly (parts at 3x diesel to gas for engine stuff) more for the diesel sprinter.
The sprinters large acquisition cost would take away some of my cash, or put me in a financing situation that would signficantly increase cost of ownership over time.
I overestimate the mpg of the sprinter. I do not think they get 25 mpg. I bet it's around 20. I don't know for sure I haven't every measured it myself.
Now you may not know how to purchase a quality used vehicle, you may not know about bypass oil filtration and it's effect on engine longevity, I figure most people are in this group. But all my vehicles: my Camry with 408,000 miles on the original drivetrain, an audi with 200k and others have bypass oil filtration systems installed.
But the v10 done my way is, on estimates of gas prices, mileage and maintenance NOT in my favor is $20K less than an equivalent sprinter van.
If I entered real world numbers , the savings would be likely significantly more.
Also, insurance would be more for a new sprinter and I believe the acquisition price of the vans are more than $50K.
IN addition, with a good used v10 van, I pay for costs along the way, not all at once, pretty much as I use it. With the sprinter new, you are on the hook for huge outlay all up front.
And yes, another 200,000 is in the range of what a well treated v10 van can do.
The v10 wins from my point of view, for my use and application, and my love of cash and distaste for hasty financing or really any financing of depreciating stuff.
And if you didn't drive your rig 200,000 miles....the costs analysist is MUch more in favor of the v10. Even with very loose estimates that all favor the sprinter, the v10 comes out about 30% less to drive for 200,000 miles.
Last edited by Speccing a V10; Oct 31, 2024 at 10:36 PM.
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I have a 2005 v10 extended van. Needed a little work, cosmetic stuff on the roof, a/c system replacement. 110,000 miles california only vehicle all white purchase price 4,000.00 US. Equivalent sprinter purchase price? Im guessing north of $50k. So I could have gone new sprinter, new transit route, requiring me to lose 46,000 more in cash or finance/lease the new sprinter/ transit. I choose to do the lower priced van and upgrade as needed. New van that sits in driveway much of the time is burning money, as I said either a chunk of 4 or 5 stacks of high society or financing. Yes, I could whittle the van use into travel for business and write off depreciation, but except for long trips the van would be sitting there.
so lets say a new sprinter is $50,000, I add 6 in upgrades to the used v10 van (new tires, bilstein shocks, a/c components, roof work, steering dampener. v10 van at 10k, sprinter at 50 k.
The v10 averages 16 mpg on trips at 62 mph. so, lets do 200,000 miles with the sprinter at 25 mpg for fun.
Van acquisition and upgrades $10k, 200,000/16 =13,035 gallons, x 5.00 per gallon that's $65,000 dollars US. plus 10k $75000 dollars for 200,000 miles not including maint.
Sprinter $50,000, 200,000/25 is 8000 gallons, x $5.50 per gallon thats $44,000 in gas plus $50k is $94,000 for 200,000 miles.
I overestimated gas prices. They are, here in CA, between 4,00 and 4,50 per gallon.
I didn't include maintenance which for all parts and labor would be significantly (parts at 3x diesel to gas for engine stuff) more for the diesel sprinter.
The sprinters large acquisition cost would take away some of my cash, or put me in a financing situation that would signficantly increase cost of ownership over time.
I overestimate the mpg of the sprinter. I do not think they get 25 mpg. I bet it's around 20. I don't know for sure I haven't every measured it myself.
Now you may not know how to purchase a quality used vehicle, you may not know about bypass oil filtration and it's effect on engine longevity, I figure most people are in this group. But all my vehicles: my Camry with 408,000 miles on the original drivetrain, an audi with 200k and others have bypass oil filtration systems installed.
But the v10 done my way is, on estimates of gas prices, mileage and maintenance NOT in my favor is $20K less than an equivalent sprinter van.
If I entered real world numbers , the savings would be likely significantly more.
Also, insurance would be more for a new sprinter and I believe the acquisition price of the vans are more than $50K.
IN addition, with a good used v10 van, I pay for costs along the way, not all at once, pretty much as I use it. With the sprinter new, you are on the hook for huge outlay all up front.
And yes, another 200,000 is in the range of what a well treated v10 van can do.
The v10 wins from my point of view, for my use and application, and my love of cash and distaste for hasty financing or really any financing of depreciating stuff.
And if you didn't drive your rig 200,000 miles....the costs analysist is MUch more in favor of the v10. Even with very loose estimates that all favor the sprinter, the v10 comes out about 30% less to drive for 200,000 miles.
my v10 E350 just turned over half million miles. Analyzed that against a Sprinter van
