electric power steering pump
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electric power steering pump
Does anyone have experience with electric power steering pumps? I want to put one on my 50 Ford F1. I installed a Toyota power steering gear but can't see an easy way to mount a pump. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
JJ Peach
Thanks in advance for your reply.
JJ Peach
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It would be helpful if you also told us what motor you have.
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Vehicle 1950 Ford F1, The engine is a v8 flat head. Transmission T5 S10 Power Steering gear out of a Toyota 4x4 pickup. I installed the PS gear but in looking for a place to mount pump, I don't think there is a place where it could be mounted that would look professional. That's why I am looking for info on electric hydraulic PS. Changed vehicle from 6V to 12 volt, Thanks. JJPeach Jerry Pechauer
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I recently rebuilt two wrecked nissans,both 2012's and both had electric power steering. They were connected with the ecm and had several computer controlled functions that would prevent them from being used as stand alone units. They both controlled manual racks. There is likely a stand alone electric pump. That is my total experience with them. Not very helpful.
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Larry, most of those systems are pure electric. I had a GM car with that, mounted high on the column under the dash. It operates directly on the steering shaft. But some cars do use an electric pump. Both are available as aftermarket, too. There is a flathead-specific hydraulic pump that mounts in place of the fan bracket on the V8s. NOT cheap, but a clean install. A websearch should turn it up.
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I thought about power steering for my '53 with a flathead and, like you, I didn't want to mount a pump.
I found the electric power steering pumps from the Toyota MR2 from '91 or '92 are supposed to work.
Here is an article for an electric powered Jeep application where they had to use an electric power steering pump:
DriveEV.com: JeepEV - Jeep Cherokee EV conversion
I found the electric power steering pumps from the Toyota MR2 from '91 or '92 are supposed to work.
Here is an article for an electric powered Jeep application where they had to use an electric power steering pump:
DriveEV.com: JeepEV - Jeep Cherokee EV conversion
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2005-2009 Mazda 3 used an electric power steering pump.
Not sure what it would take to wire it up though.
Not sure what it would take to wire it up though.
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This subject, as i recall, has been brought up previously here, as well as other forums. Someone brought up the fact that these systems are designed for small, lightweight cars with small, lightweight engines over them, steering small, most times narrow, tires. They don't hold up so well with a half ton of flathead engine and iron 4 speed transmission sitting on them, turning tall, wide, truck tires. Made sense to me.
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Here's the hydraulic setup for flatheads, but I see from the HAMB that the company has apparently taken a lot of money from people and has not delivered...
Flathead Power Steering | Flathead conversion | 8BA | 59A | Pump Kit | Ford | 1949 Ford | Ford 1950 | Ford 1951 | Ford 1952 | Pwr. Steering
Flathead Power Steering | Flathead conversion | 8BA | 59A | Pump Kit | Ford | 1949 Ford | Ford 1950 | Ford 1951 | Ford 1952 | Pwr. Steering
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Larry, most of those systems are pure electric. I had a GM car with that, mounted high on the column under the dash. It operates directly on the steering shaft. But some cars do use an electric pump. Both are available as aftermarket, too. There is a flathead-specific hydraulic pump that mounts in place of the fan bracket on the V8s. NOT cheap, but a clean install. A websearch should turn it up.
thanks for your post. That unit is no longer available. It was offered by Blundell and he if no longer in business. I would have purchased that unit if it was available. Thanks. JJpeach Jerry
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Here's the hydraulic setup for flatheads, but I see from the HAMB that the company has apparently taken a lot of money from people and has not delivered...
Flathead Power Steering | Flathead conversion | 8BA | 59A | Pump Kit | Ford | 1949 Ford | Ford 1950 | Ford 1951 | Ford 1952 | Pwr. Steering
Flathead Power Steering | Flathead conversion | 8BA | 59A | Pump Kit | Ford | 1949 Ford | Ford 1950 | Ford 1951 | Ford 1952 | Pwr. Steering
You are right, he is out of business. Left several people waiting for stuff that never was shipped.
thanks,
Jerry
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Adapting a conventional pump can be done, see below. That truck has a Car engine with the narrow belts, plus an extra sheave on the crank (I think there was a factory 3-groove sheave, but rare?) People have done it with Truck wide belts but finding a PS pump with matching wide pulley is no treat. Big Trucks had a PS option, as did Cars with flatheads.
Edit: I just realized that the truck shown also has a Chev 348/409 water pump conversion, which frees up space and pulleys
Edit: I just realized that the truck shown also has a Chev 348/409 water pump conversion, which frees up space and pulleys
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Great picture
thanks for the picture. You did a great job on installation! My alternator is mounted differently and I have a breather tube where your alternator is. I am afraid I am going to have to use EHPS no matter the cost.
Best regards,
Jerry jjpeach
Best regards,
Jerry jjpeach