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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:38 PM
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I paid for an alignment once and was very disappointed in how they set it, way to much tow in and camber, it was almost undrivable at interstate speeds and have always done it myself ever since. This isn't for everyone, if you don't know exactly how you want to set it or know how to measure the settings to less than a tenth of an inch I'd find a shop with a good reputation and pay what it costs. A good alignment is cheap if you figure in tire prices for a bad alignment. I helped some friends align their trucks and they thought they could do it themselves the second time and there front tires didn't do so well....
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jspence105
The pressure is definitely good. I used two different gauges and my TPMS all were within a 3 PSI.

As far as the 80PSI inflation I started at 60 front and 65 rear, and when I noticed the edge wear after about 1k miles I bumped it up.

Nothing is free in Canada. I called around today and the best price I could find was $90. I'm going to take some measurements and see how things look.
What load range are these tires? Or whatever they call it in Canada

I know of no one alignment problem that would wear BOTH the inside and outside edges of all FOUR tires.

The only thing that does that is under-inflation, OR the weight rating on the tires is too low for the vehicle and it's payload.

Check your tire gauge too, you never know
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by twigsV10
I paid for an alignment once and was very disappointed in how they set it, way to much tow in and camber, it was almost undrivable at interstate speeds and have always done it myself ever since. This isn't for everyone, if you don't know exactly how you want to set it or know how to measure the settings to less than a tenth of an inch I'd find a shop with a good reputation and pay what it costs. A good alignment is cheap if you figure in tire prices for a bad alignment. I helped some friends align their trucks and they thought they could do it themselves the second time and there front tires didn't do so well....
Much better, and you don't have to take it back or pay again, you have all the control and you can tweak it any way you like. All my vehicles have had zero alignment problems in the last 40 years plus I saved a lot of money.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Krewat
What load range are these tires? Or whatever they call it in Canada

I know of no one alignment problem that would wear BOTH the inside and outside edges of all FOUR tires.

The only thing that does that is under-inflation, OR the weight rating on the tires is too low for the vehicle and it's payload.

Check your tire gauge too, you never know
They are load range E. My tire pressures match up with what the shop set them at. I've only had the replacements on for a few days I'll keep an eye on them for weirdness. Hopefully I just got some bad tires.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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I paid around $180 for a lifetime alignment certificate for my Ex several years ago. It has definitely paid for itself since.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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My Michelins also wear uneven on the front. If I do not rotate the tires with each oil change the wear is very obvious.

I only have used 2 shops in 40 years and I like the way they do alignments. I found the lifetime alignments do not work on 4x4 or super duty trucks as one manager or another will void the contract for off road use. I do not race off road but the wife and I like our picnics on the mountain tops and drive forestry roads. $60 is average $100 is high for local alignments. The problem comes in where the short cuts are taken. Too many ways to cheat. Ask other truck owners in your area where they go and how often they need to have it realigned. Life time does not mean it will need regular adjustments just we did it wrong and you can come back free.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 04:26 AM
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The super duty suspension is pretty stout but regular abuse in rugged terrain is going to throw the alignment out for sure. If the planned usage is going to involved that type of driving then learning to do it yourself would seem a wise choice in case you do something 'stupid' off-road and have to make a change before you eat up a set of tires.

I would think a "lifetime" alignment contract with a chain store would hold weight, but in a mom/pop operation it might not. Just make sure you wash off the dirt and crud before taking it in for the alignment!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Titus
The super duty suspension is pretty stout but regular abuse in rugged terrain is going to throw the alignment out for sure. If the planned usage is going to involved that type of driving then learning to do it yourself would seem a wise choice in case you do something 'stupid' off-road and have to make a change before you eat up a set of tires.

I would think a "lifetime" alignment contract with a chain store would hold weight, but in a mom/pop operation it might not. Just make sure you wash off the dirt and crud before taking it in for the alignment!
It's easy to do it yourself with these trucks and no reason not to.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 01:04 PM
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I would like to learn the skills to do my own alignment - any tutorials?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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If both edges of the tire are wearing, the tire is over-inflated. The center of the tire is bulging making it a larger circumference than the outside edges. At this point the outside edges are being dragged down the road and wear out quickly. It is like having 3 tires bolted together with a tall one in the center. The center tire carries the weight and doesn't slip. The outside tires (edges) are shorter and need to spin faster to keep up with the tall tire, but can't because they are bolted together (on the same rim) , so the shorter tires (edges) get dragged and wear quickly. Instead of increasing the PSI, it should have been lowered. If the PSI gets to low the center will crown upward and the center will get dragged and wear quickly.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lance Helmert
If both edges of the tire are wearing, the tire is over-inflated. The center of the tire is bulging making it a larger circumference than the outside edges. At this point the outside edges are being dragged down the road and wear out quickly. It is like having 3 tires bolted together with a tall one in the center. The center tire carries the weight and doesn't slip. The outside tires (edges) are shorter and need to spin faster to keep up with the tall tire, but can't because they are bolted together (on the same rim) , so the shorter tires (edges) get dragged and wear quickly. Instead of increasing the PSI, it should have been lowered. If the PSI gets to low the center will crown upward and the center will get dragged and wear quickly.
This is the exact opposite of everything I have ever heard.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lance Helmert
If both edges of the tire are wearing, the tire is over-inflated. The center of the tire is bulging making it a larger circumference than the outside edges. At this point the outside edges are being dragged down the road and wear out quickly. It is like having 3 tires bolted together with a tall one in the center. The center tire carries the weight and doesn't slip. The outside tires (edges) are shorter and need to spin faster to keep up with the tall tire, but can't because they are bolted together (on the same rim) , so the shorter tires (edges) get dragged and wear quickly. Instead of increasing the PSI, it should have been lowered. If the PSI gets to low the center will crown upward and the center will get dragged and wear quickly.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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do it Brent I know what you're thinking. And so will everyone else when they read that nonsense
 
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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http://www.procarcare.com/includes/c...dtirewear.html Lance Try reading this before anymore advice is vomited out
 
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Old Oct 27, 2014 | 12:17 AM
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I would like to learn the skills to do my own alignment - any tutorials?
Sorry I don't do tutorials or write-ups anymore.
 
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