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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Need help on MAP readings

Hi all,

Sorry, but I already posted a thread about this but I am not getting anywhere. I could really do with a bit of forum expertise here.

Basically, what is happening, when the engine is working hard (or just floored) the MAP sensor reading rises to 38.0 and than drops suddenly to under 5.0. At the same time, Baro reads 14.5 steady, EBP rises to 50.0, steady and PSI to 28.0 solid.

Over a short period performance is unaffected and no codes are thrownbut in the case of a 20+ mile haul over the mountains the boost gauge on the dash flickers up and down and a CEL comes on and performance becomes erratic but it still pulls well although a bit up and down. If I back off, it resumes to normal but MAP still shows the sub 5.0 reading.

If anyone can help, it would be very much appreciated. I hope I have explained clearly....

Thanks in advance
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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all the CAC boots in good shape? some are kind of hard to see the little splits, also the Map hose look for cracks and splits , have you cleaned up the MAP nipple to Intake that little hole gets clogged along with the IAT2 sensor.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 05:39 PM
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Everything appears to be fine and boost holds up at 28 PSI, solid. It's the MAP readings that go off the wall. Somebody said that PSI was just MAP less Baro, then surely PSI should go off at the same time? It doesn't.... a real brainteaser....

I'm at a real loss on this one. It would indicate that MAP and boost receive their signals from different sources?

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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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you will have to look at AIR vs FUEL , like IAT2, MAF /MAP, EBP,BARO get those reading Value's and the puzzle will Match (maybe)
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:15 PM
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Cheers. Can I monitor those on Scanguage? IAT2 and MAF that is?

If so, what am I looking for....
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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and it's getting quite urgent now, as I have a big tow in a couple of weeks, back over the Pyrenees from Portugal to France and I can't be seen to be struggling with an F350!!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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yes but the altitude will very for my notes , I was leaning more towards cleaning them up, as far as the MAF use only Maf cleaner for that, IAT2 you can use carb cleaner .
Oh and ware your safety glasses that stuff burns like
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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Ah, got you. I have been meaning to clean the IAT2 for a bit. I shall give them a go. MAF cleaner in Spain? I have carb cleaner, contact cleaner....
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Ah, got you. I have been meaning to clean the IAT2 for a bit. I shall give them a go. MAF cleaner in Spain? I have carb cleaner, contact cleaner....
Need to be careful with the Maf and other cleaners very sensitive. may also pull the MAP nipple to Intake and clean that aswell.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 06:43 PM
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If these sensors would affect MAP readings, wouldn't they affect PSI readings too? Where does PSI get it's reading from? I would like to understand more, as I said, MAP reaches 38 and then disappears to less than 5 whilst PSI remains solid and constant. At the time MAP reading disappears, in reality it hasn't as the truck is unaffected and is still pulling hard until after a more sustained period when, I am assuming, due to an odd reading, the computer kicks in and panics
 
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Best explanation will be in the Tech folders it will take me a week of Sundays to type the correlation of Air and Fuel
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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Reading for me tomorrow then...and sensor cleaning. Thanks for your help. I'll report back
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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unless you can give me the short version
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Just to be clear, PSI is Boost? I don't have a ScanGauge code labeled as PSI.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Monster Moovers
If these sensors would affect MAP readings, wouldn't they affect PSI readings too? Where does PSI get it's reading from? I would like to understand more, as I said, MAP reaches 38 and then disappears to less than 5 whilst PSI remains solid and constant. At the time MAP reading disappears, in reality it hasn't as the truck is unaffected and is still pulling hard until after a more sustained period when, I am assuming, due to an odd reading, the computer kicks in and panics
Like you I thought the PSI gets it's reading from the MAP, now I am not so sure.

Did you check for codes? If the CEL light came on there should be something.

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