changing lifters
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
Howdi,
Ok, so Im reading my Steve Christ Big Block ford book here, and it says, under Valve-Train Noise quote,,"If the engine has hydraulic lifters and a noisy valve train, a lifter is the probably culprit", both of which i have.
Goes on to say lifters can be changed wihtout removing intake mani,. So I can chnage them withOUT pulling engine ??? I guess so eh?,, it says to remove rocker arm shaft...blah blah
Also says to check rods to see if they are bent or not. I did check 2 and they were fine. I should check rest though.
All the rods were rotating as well.
Also how much for a set of lifters??
Thanks for the help.
Sorry if it doesnt make any sense, im tired and sick and i took some gravol.....G'nite.
Ok, so Im reading my Steve Christ Big Block ford book here, and it says, under Valve-Train Noise quote,,"If the engine has hydraulic lifters and a noisy valve train, a lifter is the probably culprit", both of which i have.
Goes on to say lifters can be changed wihtout removing intake mani,. So I can chnage them withOUT pulling engine ??? I guess so eh?,, it says to remove rocker arm shaft...blah blah
Also says to check rods to see if they are bent or not. I did check 2 and they were fine. I should check rest though.
All the rods were rotating as well.
Also how much for a set of lifters??
Thanks for the help.
Sorry if it doesnt make any sense, im tired and sick and i took some gravol.....G'nite.
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Bothell, WA
changing lifters
Pulling the intake manifold and pulling the engine are not the same thing.
I've never tried to replace the lifters with the manifold in place, but it looks like it would be a bit tricky. Access through the manifold and the valley oil pan would be very restricted.
It's not all that big a job to pull the inlet manifold, though it would be much easier with an engine hoist to lift it, as it's very heavy. I pulled my inlet with the engine out, so I had been able to pretty throughly drain the coolant. With the engine in place I'd be a little worried about spilling whatever coolant remains in the head into the block as you pull it out.
Good luck
Kevin
I've never tried to replace the lifters with the manifold in place, but it looks like it would be a bit tricky. Access through the manifold and the valley oil pan would be very restricted.
It's not all that big a job to pull the inlet manifold, though it would be much easier with an engine hoist to lift it, as it's very heavy. I pulled my inlet with the engine out, so I had been able to pretty throughly drain the coolant. With the engine in place I'd be a little worried about spilling whatever coolant remains in the head into the block as you pull it out.
Good luck
Kevin
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
He says its not necesary to remove intake manifold to change lifters, so Im just wondering if anyone else has done so. I guess it would be easier with the engine out though, easier to get at everything. I just kinda want to avoid pullin' 'er out, as i dont have the necesary tools to do so. Or an adequate place to work.
Junior User
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
changing lifters
You don't need to pull the engine to change lifters. just remove valve covers and intake manifold..... no to bad of a job, but as mentioned, get help lifting the intake....
Last edited by gt6plus; Jul 12, 2003 at 07:46 PM.
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
From: Bothell, WA
changing lifters
I think it's the right thing to do. The only tricky part will be getting it lifted, it's easily 80lbs.
Read up on gaskets, as you need to take a little care when reassembling everything. I used Felpro metal sandwich gaskets along with some high temp sealant. You don't want to have coolant or exhaust leaking from the manifold into either the cylinders or block. The inlet manifold has exhaust and coolant running through it.
I made sure to leave mine to set for a while before running the engine, it seemed to work just fine.
Good luck
Kevin
Read up on gaskets, as you need to take a little care when reassembling everything. I used Felpro metal sandwich gaskets along with some high temp sealant. You don't want to have coolant or exhaust leaking from the manifold into either the cylinders or block. The inlet manifold has exhaust and coolant running through it.
I made sure to leave mine to set for a while before running the engine, it seemed to work just fine.
Good luck
Kevin
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
Alright, Thats what I qwill probably do then. Heavy little bugger eh,
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
Trending Topics
New User
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
changing lifters
My engine was pretty worn and I couldn't get all the lifters out because they had mushroomed. I had the engine out to rebuild anyway, so after the cam was out I just popped them out the other way.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals
Joe Kucinski
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership
Brett Foote
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches
Pouria Savadkouei
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained
Brett Foote
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
Interesting,
Well, I think im going to start tackling this project this wed and depending on my loot status, a few other things. Its just that if i tare it down I want to do everything,pretty much a rebuild. Well see what happens.
thanks guys.
Well, I think im going to start tackling this project this wed and depending on my loot status, a few other things. Its just that if i tare it down I want to do everything,pretty much a rebuild. Well see what happens.
thanks guys.
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: at my house
changing lifters
Pulling lifters out with the intake in isn't that bad with a telescoping magnet and a screwdriver and a person holding a flashlight for you. I'd rather do lifters this way again over pulling the boat anchor off the top of an FE.
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
Ok, beauty So you have done this that way before. And you dsay it wasnt that bad, and that you;d rather do it that way again rather that pull that sucker off.
Thats probly enough to convince me to do it that way, Also the situation im in helps that decision.
I moved into a townhouse begining of july, and the strata bylaws are a bunch o' _____ . One of them is , no vehicle repairs in parking lot. I also have to park in the visiting spots. My driveway is a steep short hill and I cannot fit my truck in the garage.
Good stuff.
Thats probly enough to convince me to do it that way, Also the situation im in helps that decision.
I moved into a townhouse begining of july, and the strata bylaws are a bunch o' _____ . One of them is , no vehicle repairs in parking lot. I also have to park in the visiting spots. My driveway is a steep short hill and I cannot fit my truck in the garage.
Good stuff.
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,907
Likes: 39
From: suburban atlanta
changing lifters
If all of the pushrods are turning, I'd hesitate to replace all the lifters. Try to pick the one(s) making noise by idling at the slowest idle possible, rocker covers off, push down on the pushrod side of each rocker to increase the clatter(collapse lifter a little) and let if up to allow it to take up the slack. The ones that don't quiet down may need to be removed and cleaned... They're not worn as they still rotate the pushrods. Always replace the lifter in the hole from which it was removed, it wears into its particular cam lobe... tom
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
From: Oak Harbor
changing lifters
you can also go on to harbor freight.com and buy a tool called a lifter puller it kind of looks like needle nose pliers they are long and skinny and you just put it under the little wire clips spread it out and pull up takes 5 seconds to pull one out with that tool and it is only a few bucks. good luck
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,457
Likes: 0
From: Grande Prairie, AB
changing lifters
Yeah, i found sets of em, or theyre like 3$ for each one,
so after all said and done, be aorund same price as you mentioned.
It turns out I am a complete moron, and everything is fine, the ticking is gone. Lets just say there wasnt sufficient oiling. 
Man, this thing takes a beating and keeps runnin like a dream. I AM impressed.
so after all said and done, be aorund same price as you mentioned.
It turns out I am a complete moron, and everything is fine, the ticking is gone. Lets just say there wasnt sufficient oiling.
Man, this thing takes a beating and keeps runnin like a dream. I AM impressed.