Swapped the blown engine and cruise-o-matic out of my 67 F250 for a 360 and a C6, most of the swapping issues have been worked out with the exception of the shift lever position on the column. Looks like a slightly different shift pattern, would the only thing I need to do to remedy this issue be use a later shifter and linkage? I know probably a silly question but before we tear it all apart I'd like to ask...

Thanks,

Jim

 

Before we begin swapping parts, have you already tried adjusting the shift linkage? The long rod that goes down is threaded at the top, allowing for adjustment.

 

Yes, it's adjusted but the selector is way off on the column

 

Jim The C-O-M uses 1 more selection than the C6. Not certain what year the C6 replaced the C-O-M but up through 72 is a swap if C6 was used then.

Should you be able to live with it, and want to do the power steering power disc brake upgrade you can use the column from your donor. just a thought.


John

 

Looks like it's the length of the shift rod where your problem lies. Ford lists 1967 with c/m C7TZ7326C...18 3/4" LONG. 68 to early 69 360/390 & C6 lists part number C8TZ7326A but lists no length.

 

Jeff, Have you looked at a Green dot C-O-M selector for the column to see the difference. I believe you will find a different selector rod there too.


John

 

Not sure watcha mean John. I guess being (Ford) book smart has me handicapped in this instance. LOL! I had checked the shift dial (AKA shift indicator or PRNDL). Part number C7TZ7B033E. It's the same 67 (c/m) through 72 before ser #M60,001 (C6). I had also checked the shift lever at the bottom of the column. Basic number 7302. There are various ones But the tranny is not the difference. With or without power steering and serial number changes.

 

My 67 has a 460/C6 combo swapped into it. For a shifter they installed a floor mount universal style.

 

1973 C6. looks like some column mods are in order, don't want to go with a floor shift.

 

Jeff this is correct for the C6 PRNDL the C-O-M PRN*(*=green dot) L. Check the link you will see the difference.

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John

 

I thought that's what you meant John but wasn't sure. I found where ND Bill had mentioned the green dot dial to an old thread. I'll post it below. The part number he mentions (C7TZ7B033A) was replaced by the C7TZ7B033E I mentioned above.
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i was told that the "gren dot" by ford was in a c6 trans. for one year only 1966.
for those not familiar, the shift pattern is PRN2DL. NOT PRND2L. i thought the "dot" was only in c4's. i have a 390 in my 56 and had trouble with my tranny not shifting when in drvive(D). the tranny shop said i had a dot c6. is this true? a ford better idea for only 1 year? thanks for info
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Green dot shift indicator dials were used in original Cruise-O-Matics from 1958 thru 1965 on cars, on 1962/67 F100/350's. C-4 Green Dot dials were used on C4's from 1964 thru the 1970's on cars, 1964/72 on trucks (mebbe later, book doesn't say). C6 green dot indicator dials were used 1968/72.

Green Spot indicator dial: P R N o O L

F100/350: The 1967 C-O-M; C4's and C6's used the same green dot indicator dial from 1967 to 1972 = C7TZ-7B033-A

There were no C6's installed in F Series trucks till 1968.
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Jeff, I stay away from your part numbers, you and Mr. Wilson do as you wish with them.

I am going to say this, pull a green dot column from one of this series pickups with the shift arm, lay it out on something flat, then place a column that connects to a C6 and you will see the differences.

They both can be used in the pickups with their transmission and later columns with their steering gear.

So OP Jim will need a column for the C6 installed in his truck to be happy.


John

 

Thank you John.

My 67 didn't have the green dot, I did google it and see what you're talking about, and now I remember seeing those before. We found a 1972 column and I see a difference, the center of the steering shaft is 3-1/8" to the center of the shift lever hole (shift lever has a dog leg in it too), on my 67 COM column that measurement is closer to 4-1/8" and the shift lever that holds the rod is straight. Also, my 67 came with power steering.

I think a good portion of my problem is in the collar that holds the shift lever, pulled the steering wheel off and that collar is broken inside.

On a good note, the C6 we rebuilt is great, and the rebuilt 360 is nice too. A great addition to the 67, the whole package fit right in, even with the "Low hump".

More later.

Thanks again.

 

Here I think is a good portion of the problem, I knew it was sloppy, but didn't think this was causing 100% of the trouble....

 

Ah Mr. Jim, you just might be on to something there.


John